Re: What is God ? or, In which type of God do you believe?
Ambarsaria Ji,
If you are defining the collective knowledge of all sciences(known and to be discovered) as "One eternal Truth", then I totally agree with you. If you want to call it 'God' then be it. I have to say I don't have any issue with this description. In fact I have never seen anyone put it in such a beautiful and succinct manner. I wish we can have more people like you on the forum.
But I agree with you only as long as your definition of God remains limited to what is quoted above. If you are defining God as anything more or as something that listens or answers our prayers or as a being that created the universe then I have to disagree.
I also take bit of an exception to the part where you say "full would never be known". If all the scientists working hard to improve our lives start believing this, it would be a big setback to all scientific research. I think it might take hundred or maybe thousand years but full would be known ultimately.And I am still talking about the "One Eternal Truth- The collective knowledge of all sciences"
Thanks & Regards.
Pardon me Freethinker ji but I think you misread Ambarsari ji's post.
I believe he said One Eternal Truth that is not limited to the realm of science but includes the truths of science - the unsolved mysteries - among other things.
To put it bluntly, Science does not have a grasp of everything, it never will. (It does not attempt to study everything nor does it try to cover all the fields of study.) Limiting your understanding of Truth to just science is not wise. (Even scientists don't do this. They know the progress of science will stop if they limit their conception of truth to just what science is sure about. That's why Einstein said "Imagination if more important than knowledge") Now of course, science is quite useful, especially for developing powerful models of the world. But these models do not explain the world (they certainly attempt to and seem like they do). And certainly do not "explain it away". Our world cannot be "explained away". It is too vast for that. The more you look at something, he more you study something, the more there is look at and study. The more you explain, the more there is to explain. On top of that each explanation must be explained then that explanation must be explained and so on and so forth. You see it? So "explaining it away" is impossible. The vastness is incomprehensible. It can only be tasted so to speak. It can only be tasted through living in it - through our perception, our awareness. Whether that comes from science or whether it comes from art is up to the individual and their circumstances. But one thing is for certain, it arises from lived experience of our world.
When such perception reaches its heights. When the five senses are flooded with PURE perception, without blockage, without mental noise from thoughts and analysis. It is only then we get a taste of the Eternal Truth. We get a taste of this vastness. Only when you taste the vastness of it will you see where I am really getting at when I say: Out of this perception, sciences and all other fields of study emerge. It is out of this field of Truth that we get
listens or answers our prayers or as a being that created the universe
Truth is self-existent. Nothing makes the Truth, true. It is is true of its own accord. Truth and universe manifest simultaneously. Who knows which came first, though it does not matter, as they are the one and the same. This is the same as "being". To be. The universe is.
Now of course, what you think of as "answering" prayers" maybe an entirely different notion than mine or someone else. However, both notions arose from the being. Without being how could such notions arise? If being is real, is reality, then such notions on some level are also reality. (Different levels of reality - too vast for human comprehension)
Thus we have a few words now that essentially hint at the same thing. Pure perception, Being, Truth/Eternal Truth, Universe, Reality. We may say these are hints to the God problem.
