BhagatSingh
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- Apr 24, 2006
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Ishna ji,
I have no arguments, just a few hints.
Khushwant Singh in this Book the History of Sikhs mentions how Guru Nanak's God was the protector of his devotees, whereas Guru Gobind Singh's God was the destroyer of those hostile to his devotees. He points out how these are flip-sides of the same coin, that is, they are saying the same thing in different ways. You don't have to take his word for it (I suggest you don't and find out yourself - meditation)
It was not too long ago that I realized that while it was good to analyze Guru's shabad, it was more important to just let the shabad sink in while putting focus in meditating, on Naam Japna, Simran. Repeat God's name and listen in before, during and after each repetition.
It's boring I know but if God was realized in parties or high-energy lifestyles then well, we wouldn't be having this conversation. If God was found through analyzing, then all the scientists and scholars of the world would be enlightened masters. Now he can be found here but quite rarely. our normal way of living is to seek out pleasurable experiences and to analyze everything before us. Clearly our normal way does not get us there.
Instead if we look at the enlightened people in India, they are finding God in stones, looking at the dead, in repetition of word(s), in paying attention to their breath, through low-energy singing and dancing and sometimes simply through Divine grace.
God is very subtle and so one must sharpen their ability to detect things at very low levels. In other words, meditate as often as you can, as you wait for things, as you wash the dishes, as you tend to your garden, at work, in the car, as you walk from one location to another etc.
I know you want to solve it out so you can relax, you want to understand things, you want to know, your want has made you restless - that is our nature. But see that troubling sensation as a gift from God. Let that uncertainty trouble you for as long as it does. Try to embrace it as it is without changing it.
Your hunger will not be satisfied no matter how much you feed it.
Your intelligence (thoughts, analysis, etc) will not help you in the end.
How can this illusion be torn apart and the truth be realized?
Nanak says truth is realized when one lives in harmony with the Hukam. (japji sahib)
I have no arguments, just a few hints.
Khushwant Singh in this Book the History of Sikhs mentions how Guru Nanak's God was the protector of his devotees, whereas Guru Gobind Singh's God was the destroyer of those hostile to his devotees. He points out how these are flip-sides of the same coin, that is, they are saying the same thing in different ways. You don't have to take his word for it (I suggest you don't and find out yourself - meditation)
It was not too long ago that I realized that while it was good to analyze Guru's shabad, it was more important to just let the shabad sink in while putting focus in meditating, on Naam Japna, Simran. Repeat God's name and listen in before, during and after each repetition.
It's boring I know but if God was realized in parties or high-energy lifestyles then well, we wouldn't be having this conversation. If God was found through analyzing, then all the scientists and scholars of the world would be enlightened masters. Now he can be found here but quite rarely. our normal way of living is to seek out pleasurable experiences and to analyze everything before us. Clearly our normal way does not get us there.
Instead if we look at the enlightened people in India, they are finding God in stones, looking at the dead, in repetition of word(s), in paying attention to their breath, through low-energy singing and dancing and sometimes simply through Divine grace.
God is very subtle and so one must sharpen their ability to detect things at very low levels. In other words, meditate as often as you can, as you wait for things, as you wash the dishes, as you tend to your garden, at work, in the car, as you walk from one location to another etc.
I know you want to solve it out so you can relax, you want to understand things, you want to know, your want has made you restless - that is our nature. But see that troubling sensation as a gift from God. Let that uncertainty trouble you for as long as it does. Try to embrace it as it is without changing it.
Your hunger will not be satisfied no matter how much you feed it.
Your intelligence (thoughts, analysis, etc) will not help you in the end.
How can this illusion be torn apart and the truth be realized?
Nanak says truth is realized when one lives in harmony with the Hukam. (japji sahib)
... i see it daily in my life...my wife holds grudges with so many people...i see it draining her of her Amrit and focus in life over petty little things...the best thing i can do is show her the positive effects of forgiving, hopefully she sees the peace that comes with it...
