How To See God In All?

[RD1]

It is so tough to see god in a person who always {censored}es you offf . Sorry but thats true.

I agree - it can be soo difficult. At this point, we really need to reflect on our ego and anger I suppose, and detach.

 

[Sikhilove]

The path is not beyond Logic, but logical. Logic is not weak, it's a tool given to us. As competent adult human beings, 'worldly logic' is at our disposal to use for good. I do not think it is in God's interest for grown adults to behave like children or newborns. It is not glamorous but we must accept the responsibilities of adulthood and that the 'path' is not divorced from them.

If we consider 'the path', as humans, at best we can only see a few steps ahead. Our logic is our compass, given to us. We see it points north, and we do our best to carry forward. We do not have a bird's eye view, the conditions may be foggy, the geography might change, there may or may not be enough rations ahead but we trust ourselves to carry forward. Because, as time moves forward, people have to move too. On the other hand, we assume that God has a bird's eye view perhaps knows of changes in geography and maybe a few roadblocks. Our compass still points north and in all conditions, if not for our logic and commitment, we would not stay on the path.
 


Fair enough.

Logic can indeed be used as a tool in the khel. What I meant by the path being beyond worldly logic is that I t is not able to be defined or constrained by logic.

One may reach a perceived block on the road and wonder, what now. And then the heart speaks and we keep moving forward, continuing to discover the truth out of love.

Many say that Love is the most powerful force in the universe, and indeed it is, for its out of True Love that the universe was created.

 

[chazSingh]

Sorry, this is what happens when you realise the truth?

I have no idea what i'll do when i have Waheguru Realization...whatever that realization or how it manifests will be...

why think about it? why do we need to think, think think all the time...sometimes i just want to follow my heart wherever it takes me...and just be in the moment...enjoy it...

We say Waheguru is an endless creative force...then i guess there will not ever be any shortage of things to do, see, be a part of...just be...go with the flow (waheguru)

 

[Dalvinder Singh Grewal]

In our day to day lives, we can come across people who say and do things that can anger, offed, and irritate us. Whether its someone cutting you off on the road, someone saying something rude/mean to you, someone judging you, someone cheating you, or overhearing someone say discriminatory comments (such as hearing someone make a racist remark about another person) - I can easily feel myself getting angry, and wanting to and sometimes actually lashing back at the person. Its natural to feel anger, but how can we overcome this so it does not blind us, how can we channel this energy in a more productive manner, how can we truly learn to see "God in all?"

Have you touched the leaf of a tree to your head and enjoyed the warmth? Have you seen into the lily for hours and gone beyond? Have you listen to the cuckoo early in the morning and getting lost into music reverberating in each plant? Have you enjoyed a bee buzzing on a flower; sitting on it, sucking its juices and flying away contented? Have you slept on a green grass by the side of a calmly flowing rivulet? have you been watching the glory of snowy mountains covered with colorful clouds? You may go on enjoying the world around if you wish to enjoy the bounty placed before you by the God almighty otherwise you may feel getting lost into the dull drab sound of machinery; the itching and piercing sound of horns; the dirty smell of waste dumped nearby the road and so on. Choice is all yours.

 

[RD1]

Have you touched the leaf of a tree to your head and enjoyed the warmth? Have you seen into the lily for hours and gone beyond? Have you listen to the cuckoo early in the morning and getting lost into music reverberating in each plant? Have you enjoyed a bee buzzing on a flower; sitting on it, sucking its juices and flying away contented? Have you slept on a green grass by the side of a calmly flowing rivulet? have you been watching the glory of snowy mountains covered with colorful clouds? You may go on enjoying the world around if you wish to enjoy the bounty placed before you by the God almighty otherwise you may feel getting lost into the dull drab sound of machinery; the itching and piercing sound of horns; the dirty smell of waste dumped nearby the road and so on. Choice is all yours.

That is lovely post.

 

[Sikhilove]

I have no idea what i'll do when i have Waheguru Realization...whatever that realization or how it manifests will be...

why think about it? why do we need to think, think think all the time...sometimes i just want to follow my heart wherever it takes me...and just be in the moment...enjoy it...

We say Waheguru is an endless creative force...then i guess there will not ever be any shortage of things to do, see, be a part of...just be...go with the flow (waheguru)

Yep the path is never ending, we never stop learning and discovering.

When you meditate, meditate on the nothingness without expectation.

 

[RD1]

meditate on the nothingness without expectation

how does one do this?

 

[Harry Haller]

you talk of reaching the end of the path, then say that the path is never ending, which is it?

 

[Sikhilove]

how does one do this?

Sit down to meditate. Close your eyes. The darkness you see is the truth. The different coloured dots you may see are emotions.

Listen to the ringing sound you hear when you relax, it's the Anhad naad, the primal sound, symbolic of the nothiness and silence.

Relax, let go and let the Samadhi take over.

 

[Harry Haller]

Sit down to meditate. Close your eyes. The darkness you see is the truth. The different coloured dots you may see are emotions.

Listen to the ringing sound you hear when you relax, it's the Anhad naad, the primal sound, symbolic of the nothiness and silence.

Relax, let go and let the Samadhi take over.

you speak very definitively, are these your own conclusions or are they documented anywhere?

 

[Sikhilove]

="Harry Haller, post: 210876, member: 146

you speak very definitively, are these your own conclusions or are they documented anywhere?

Gurbani speaks of the primal void. I have also experienced this and sat in Samadhi.

 

[Harry Haller]

I do not believe Gurbani equates darkness with truth and spots with emotions.

 

[swarn bains]

how does one do this?
Sit down to meditate. Close your eyes. The darkness you see is the truth. The different coloured dots you may see are emotions.

Listen to the ringing sound you hear when you relax, it's the Anhad naad, the primal sound, symbolic of the nothiness and silence.

Relax, let go and let the Samadhi take over.

These are the signs of self induced meditation. To progress in meditation the guru is a must. if one does not have a guru then sooner or later it is going to affect you in a way that you start calling yourself God and go out of control. be ware of it

 

[Sikhilove]

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how does one do this?
Sit down to meditate. Close your eyes. The darkness you see is the truth. The different coloured dots you may see are emotions.

Listen to the ringing sound you hear when you relax, it's the Anhad naad, the primal sound, symbolic of the nothiness and silence.

Relax, let go and let the Samadhi take over.
These are the signs of self induced meditation. To progress in meditation the guru is a must. if one does not have a guru then sooner or later it is going to affect you in a way that you start calling yourself God and go out of control. be ware of it

I followed the Guru and this what I discovered.

We are told to do naam Simran/ meditation on just about every page of Gurbani, and samadhi is also spoken of in Gurbani. None of what I said is new. Everything is Truth but it's a projection from the primal void also spoken of in Gurbani.

 

[Harry Haller]

We are told to do naam Simran/ meditation on just about every page of Gurbani,

have you ever thought that your interpretations are literal and leave no scope for the use of intellect? ie, the truth is not telling lies, naam simran is to repeat the same word over and over, do you not think that Guruji wishes us to use our brains?

 

[swarn bains]

This is how I address God as

ਮੇਰੇ ਰੱਬ

ਸਜਦਾ ਯਾ ਸ਼ਿਕਵਾ ਕਰੂੰ, ਮੈਨੂੰ ਦੱਸ ਮਿਲੇਂਗਾ ਕਦ

ਬਿਨਾਂ ਵੇਖਿਆਂ ਮਾਹੀ ਵੇ, ਮੈਂ ਕਿਹਨੂੰ ਆਖਾਂ ਰੱਬ

ਜੰਗਲ ਬੇਲੇ ਖੋਜ ਥੱਕੀ, ਮੈਂ ਢੂੰਡੀਆਂ ਸਾਰੀਆਂ ਥਾਵਾਂ

ਤੱਕ ਆਕਾਸ਼ਾਂ ਹਾਰ ਗਈ, ਮੈਂ ਔਸੀਆਂ ਪਾਈਆਂ ਕਾਵਾਂ

ਯਾਰ ਮਿਲਾਵੋ ਸਈਓ ਨੀ, ਜਿਹਨੇ ਸਾਜਿਆ ਜੱਗ

ਵੱਲ ਸਾਗਰਾਂ ਵੇਖਾਂ ਨੀ, ਮੈਂ ਲਹਿਰਾਂ ਵੇਖ ਡਰਾਵਾਂ

ਮਨ ਵਿੱਚ ਆਕਾਸ਼ਾਂ ਉੜ ਜਾਵੇ, ਉੜ ਚਾਰੇ ਵੰਨੇ ਜਾਵਾਂ

ਪੌਣ ਪਾਣੀ ਬੈਸੰਤਰ ਸਾਰੇ, ਢੋਲਣਾ, ਸਾਜੇ ਤੂੰ ਸਜ ਧੱਜ

ਹਰ ਕੋਈ ਇਹੋ ਆਖਦਾ, ਹਰਿ, ਤੂੰ ਹਰ ਅੰਦਰ ਵਸੇਂ

ਨਜ਼ਰ ਕਿਸੇ ਆਉਂਦਾ ਨਹੀਂ, ਨਾ ਰਾਹ ਮਿਲਣ ਦਾ ਦੱਸੇਂ

ਜੇ ਤੂੰ ਮਿਲਣ ਨਹੀਂ ਆਉਣਾ, ਫਿਰ ਕਿਵੇਂ ਸਕਾਂ ਮੈਂ ਲੱਭ

ਚੰਦ ਸੂਰਜ ਵੀ ਤੂੰ ਬਣਾਏ, ਤੂੰ ਹੀ ਬਣਾਏ ਤਾਰੇ

ਤੇਰਾ ਸਜਦਾ ਕਰਨ ਲਈ, ਉਹ ਚੱਕਰ ਲਾਉਂਦੇ ਸਾਰੇ

ਇਹ ਸਾਰੀਆਂ ਤੇਰੀਆਂ ਖ੍ਹੇਡਾਂ, ਤੂੰ ਠੱਗਾਂ ਦਾ ਠੱਗ

ਸਭ ਕੁਝ ਇੱਥੇ ਤੂੰ ਸਾਜਿਆ, ਸਭ ਕੁਝ ਤੇਰੀ ਦਾਤ

ਸਰਦੀ ਮਗਰੋਂ ਗਰਮੀਂ ਲਿਆਵੇਂ, ਦਿਨ ਤੋਂ ਮਗਰੋਂ ਰਾਤ

ਕੋਈ ਤੇਰਾ ਹੁਕਮ ਨਾ ਮੋੜ ਸਕੇ, ਨਾ ਕੋਈ ਸਕਦਾ ਭੱਜ

ਅਚਰਜ ਖ੍ਹੇਡਾਂ ਵੇਖ ਵੇਖ, ਮੇਰੀ ਵਧਦੀ ਜਾਏ ਹੈਰਾਨੀ

ਚਾਰੇ ਵੰਨੇਂ ਤੂੰ ਹੀ ਤੂੰ ਏਂ, ਜੱਗ ਚ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਤੇਰਾ ਸਾਨੀ

ਬੈਂਸ ਨੂੰ ਵੀ ਤੂੰ ਸਾਜਿਆ, ਚੰਨਾਂ, ਤੂੰ ਹੀ ਉਹਦਾ ਰੱਬ

ਜੱਗ ਛੱਡਣ ਵੇਲੇ ਆ ਜਾਵੀਂ, ਜਦੋਂ ਛੱਡਾਂ ਕੁਦਰਤ ਤੇਰੀ

ਜੇ ਤੈਨੂੰ ਫੁਰਸਤ ਨਹੀਂ ਮਿਲਦੀ, ਲਾ ਮੋਢਾ ਅਰਥੀ ਮੇਰੀ

ਮੇਰੇ ਕਰੇ ਗੁਨਾਹ ਨ ਬਖਸ਼ ਦਵੀਂ, ਦੇਹ ਸਜ਼ ਰੱਜ ਰੱਜ

ਦਰਸ ਵਖਾ ਦੇ ਢੋਲਾ, ਨਿੱਤ ਮਿੰਨਤਾਂ ਕਰਦੀ ਤੇਰੀਆਂ

ਆ ਪਾ ਦੇ ਖੈਰ ਗਰੀਬਾਂ ਨੂੰ, ਝੋਲੀਆਂ ਭਰ ਦੇ ਮੇਰੀਆਂ

ਚੰਨਾਂ, ਮੈਂ ਵੀ ਤੇਰੀ ਬਣ ਜਾਵਾਂ, ਬਹੁੜ ਨਾ ਆਵਾਂ ਜੱਗ

 

[Sikhilove]

have you ever thought that your interpretations are literal and leave no scope for the use of intellect? ie, the truth is not telling lies, naam simran is to repeat the same word over and over, do you not think that Guruji wishes us to use our brains?

Lol of course, but truthfully. Don't use your mind to indulge in rubbish, use it to do what u have to do. Fulfill your worldly responsibilities and also practice spirituality.

I never said naam is to repeat the same word over and over, you're putting words in my mouth.

Naam is truth- it's everything, it's frequency, its pure unconditional love.

 

[Harry Haller]

What is it I have to do?
How do I practice spirituality?
What is Naam Simran?

 

[swarn bains]

naam simran, meditate and many other words or names are used by the people to pretend to become spiritual but spirituality is a state of mind . how it is achieved only a few people know about it. please comment if anyone read my above poem

 

[Sikhilove]

Lol of course, but truthfully. Don't use your mind to indulge in rubbish, use it to do what u have to do. Fulfill your worldly responsibilities and also practice spirituality.

What is it I have to do?
How do I practice spirituality?
What is Naam Simran?

I never said naam is to repeat the same word over and over, you're putting words in my mouth.

Naam is truth- it's everything, it's frequency.

Have you read Guru Granth Sahib Ji?

I'd suggest read it when you get a chance.

Naam simran= meditate on naam. Naam is Truth, its a frequency beyond what people can comprehend. Discovered by applying principles of Gurbani to our lives as per Guru Granth Sahib ji.

Spirituality= live truth, Serve truth, speak truth, die truth. Do bandgi good deeds. Learn and detach from the face of the khel in truth and teach others out of it aswell.

He put us here to discover the Truth/ ourselves in a fraction of the time that He did. Teaching others is the same unconditional love that He gave to us when he blessed us with this opportunity to realise ourselves. The truth = Nothing. There is nothing, we are nothing, only pure unconditional love.