Opinion Is There Any Honour In Killing For 'honour'?
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The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - HaryanaCaught in caste tangle, lovers end lives
Bhanu P Lohumi
Tribune News Service
Panipat, June 27Bhanu P Lohumi
Tribune News Service
Afraid of the stiff resistance to their love affair, two lovers of different castes today ended their lives by jumping before a train at the Railway crossing near Siwah in Panipat district, the railway police said.
Tina (18) from Lohar caste and her lover Deepak (25) from the Saini community, hailing from Dhera village, were having an affair for the past one and a half years. However, opposition to inter-caste marriage by their family members drove them to commit suicide. Deepak used to run a shop in the village.
Their bodies were handed over to their family members after a postmortem, GRP officials said.
According to the Samalkha police, Tina and Deepak, whose houses were opposite to each other, had disappeared from the village on June 17. Tina’s father Krishan Lohar had lodged a complaint against Deepak and another local resident Anil at the Samalkha police station on June 18, accusing them of luring his daughter with a promise of marriage.
The railway police also recovered a bag from the site that contained four photographs and some receipts of hotel in Hardwar, which indicated that they might have stayed in some hotel after leaving the village.
The Samalkha police arrested Anil and produced him in a local court, which remanded him in 14 days of judicial custody.
The reflection of the gruesome incident was not visible on the faces of villagers and even the father of the girl was not aggrieved. “She saved the honour of the family by committing suicide and it is good for the family,” some villagers were heard saying.
Even the father of the girl looked unrepentant. “It may not be case of honour killing, but certainly the fear of honour killing drove them to death,” said an upset local shopkeeper.
The police said investigations were in progress and more information would be available after the postmortem report.
Another arrest in double murder case
BS Malik
Sonepat, June 27BS Malik
In case of the murder of two minor girls - Chanchal and Raj Kumari - whose bodies were recovered by the police on Friday from the Delhi branch of the West Yamuna Canal, Chanchal’s 16-year-old stepbrother Vijay has been arrested and a case of alleged rape under Section 376 of the IPC has been registered against him on the complaint of Raj Kumari’s mother Sunita.
In her complaint to the police, Sunita has alleged that Vijay had come from Panchkula and was been staying with his grandmother Vidya Devi for the last one month. Her daughter Raj Kumari (12) was also staying with there. Taking advantage of the circumstances, Vijay developed illicit relations with her daughter and allegedly raped her.
Meanwhile, the three accused - Vidya Devi, Chand and Suraj - who were arrested yesterday for the murder of Chanchal and Raj Kumari, were produced in the court today that remanded them in judicial custody.
CIA to probe girl’s death
Bijendra Ahlawat
Tribune News Service
Rohtak, June 27Bijendra Ahlawat
Tribune News Service
Mystery shrouds the death of an 18-year-old girl two days ago. The police so far has not been able to reach any conclusion over the suspense over her death. While the family claims that the girl committed suicide, the hurry shown in cremating her without informing the police has raised suspicion that it could also be a case of honour killing. The case has been handed over to the CIA for a detailed probe.
Body of the girl, identified as Shalini (18), was retrieved by the police recently from Gurgaon after she had gone missing from her house in Shivaji Colony here. Though a complaint had been lodged with the police with the suspicion of two youths being involved in it, the police was, however, able to recover Shalini from Gurgaon recently. She was handed over to her family after being produced in the court where she claimed that she had gone to find a job there and nobody had abducted her.
But the police got stumped when it was revealed that the girl recovered a day before died the next day and cremated by the family at her paternal village of Kharkara. However, doubts were raised when the family neither told the police about the incident nor took the body for a postmortem examination.
Meanwhile, Shalini’s father has claimed that she had committed suicide and was cremated in the knowledge of the village panchayat and family members.
There has been no complaint of any kind from any one so far in this case and the police was still to get any clue regarding the possibility of an “honour” killing.
The villagers are been silent over the incident and have not provided any inputs so far.
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Here is the print version of the story. On the site you posted rajneesh madokh ji are a number of videos tracking honor killings persistently.
One thing appears true. This did not happen in the countryside.
Aunts outraged, want mother’s role probed
Murdered teenager Amritpal Kaur’s three aunts have openly blamed their sister and the girl’s mother Rajbir Kaur for ‘killing’ the young girl and are also aghast that Rajbir feels no remorse for the crime.
The seventeen-year-old girl, according to the police, was brought to Amritsar from their home in Brussels by stepfather Mehtab Singh and then allegedly killed because the Jat-sikh girl was in love with Brussels-based Lakhwinder Singh who belonged to the Lobana Sikh community. Mehtab has been arrested.
Aunts Gurwant and Kulbir Kaur and another sister have demanded a CBI probe into the young girl’s death and want Rajbir’s possible role in the alleged murder investigated.
They fondly recalled Amritpal as a ‘no-nonsense girl’ and extremely ‘lovable’.
It is learnt Lakhwinder Singh — who had tipped off the Amritsar police about the threat to Amritpal’s life —has also said he is ready to come to India and help investigations. He had called the local police after “someone called him from India”, taunting him that his “beloved had been mercilessly killed” and that he could “do nothing about it”.
The police, however, could not reach on time and the body was cremated.
The aunts are in contact with Lakhwinder, they said, who is equally outraged that Amritpal should be killed.
On the other hand, the police said Mehtab has confessed to killing his daughter to “save the honour of his family”. Further investigations are on.
Stepfather confesses to killing 17-yr-old for honour
One thing appears true. This did not happen in the countryside.
Aunts outraged, want mother’s role probed
Murdered teenager Amritpal Kaur’s three aunts have openly blamed their sister and the girl’s mother Rajbir Kaur for ‘killing’ the young girl and are also aghast that Rajbir feels no remorse for the crime.
The seventeen-year-old girl, according to the police, was brought to Amritsar from their home in Brussels by stepfather Mehtab Singh and then allegedly killed because the Jat-sikh girl was in love with Brussels-based Lakhwinder Singh who belonged to the Lobana Sikh community. Mehtab has been arrested.
Aunts Gurwant and Kulbir Kaur and another sister have demanded a CBI probe into the young girl’s death and want Rajbir’s possible role in the alleged murder investigated.
They fondly recalled Amritpal as a ‘no-nonsense girl’ and extremely ‘lovable’.
It is learnt Lakhwinder Singh — who had tipped off the Amritsar police about the threat to Amritpal’s life —has also said he is ready to come to India and help investigations. He had called the local police after “someone called him from India”, taunting him that his “beloved had been mercilessly killed” and that he could “do nothing about it”.
The police, however, could not reach on time and the body was cremated.
The aunts are in contact with Lakhwinder, they said, who is equally outraged that Amritpal should be killed.
On the other hand, the police said Mehtab has confessed to killing his daughter to “save the honour of his family”. Further investigations are on.
Stepfather confesses to killing 17-yr-old for honour
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I missed something. When did the problem become a Jatt problem. I ran Edit/Find on all 3 pages of this thread. The only time Jatt was mentioned was that the murder victim, Amritpal Kaur, came from a Jatt family.
Narayanjot ji
Did you read reply to rajneesh.I already mentioned cases of honour killings are mainly that aggressive voilent communittiies of northern India like, jaat gujjar.Majority of honour killings in haryana happen in jaat hindu's while in punjab it happens in jatt sikh.in delhi the recent case happen in Gujjar community
Kanwardeep ji
I did read your reply to rajneesh madhok ji. I think you are referring to this sentence.
"I don't know but as long people keep saying proud to be jatt,or proud to be gujjar then it will get worse"
Maybe I misread it. Were your referring to a geographical location (that is how I read the statement in context) or were you saying that jatts and gujjars are pre-disposed to the problem of abusing women/honor killings?
I did read your reply to rajneesh madhok ji. I think you are referring to this sentence.
"I don't know but as long people keep saying proud to be jatt,or proud to be gujjar then it will get worse"
Maybe I misread it. Were your referring to a geographical location (that is how I read the statement in context) or were you saying that jatts and gujjars are pre-disposed to the problem of abusing women/honor killings?
What i said was the problem of honour killings are found much more in jatts and gujjars rather than in other communitties of North India.as these comminitties are known for theior aggressive attitude.
And BTW Honour killing and women abuse are 2 different issue's.In honour killing men too are killed.In haryana last year a khap panchayat issued order to kill the jaat man who married within same gotra and he was killed when
he had an order in his from court when that her wife should be returned.He had 15 policemen accompanied him but when they saw the entire village charging towards him.His wife is still alive and living with her parents
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'Honour' killing: It's a global phenomenon
NEW DELHI: Even as the government is contemplating bringing in a new law to deal with the spurt in honour killings, reports by human rights organisations show that cold-blooded murders in the name of saving family pride had been prevalent in many parts of the world.
Honour killings have been rampant in orthodox and socially backward groups in many countries including India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Turkey, Jordan and the Palestinian Territories, they say.
While statistics are hard to come by due to non-reporting of such crimes, United Nations Population Fund approximates that as many as 5,000 women are murdered in this manner each year around the world.
But this is undoubtedly a low estimate, as reports from many countries are filtered and not brought to public notice.
According to Amnesty International, honour killings are the most widespread in Pakistan. A recent report by the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) states that 647 women were killed in the name of "honour" in 2009 -- up by 13 per cent from 2008 when 574 such killings were reported.
"An honour killing is carried out because the honour of men in the family is perceived to have been injured," I A Rehman, secretary-general of HRCP, was quoted as saying.
"This is basically a consequence of the low status of women in society," Rehman said.
Such crimes are committed for a wide range of "offences" -- marital infidelity, pre-marital sex, flirting, or even failing to serve a meal on time that can be perceived as impugning the family honour.
In one such case, a husband murdered his wife based on a dream that she had betrayed him, according to the Amnesty International. In Turkey, a young woman's throat was slit in the town square because a love ballad had been dedicated to her over the radio.
A June 2008 report by Turkey's Human Rights Directorate says that in Istanbul alone, there is one honour killing every week and over 1,000 were killed during the last five years.
In the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, it is believed that three-four women are killed every month in the name of saving honour. The Palestinian Authority follows the Jordanian law, which gives men reduced punishment for killing wives or female relatives if they have brought dishonour to the family.
Similarly, Article 548 of Syria's Penal Code states that if a person catches his wife or sister "committing adultery (called flagrante delicto) or illegitimate sexual acts with another and if he kills or injures one or both of them", he should benefit from a reduced penalty which should not be less than two years in prison.
In Morocco, Article 418 of Penal Code grants "extenuating circumstances" to a husband who murders or injures his wife for "flagrante delicto". About 200 women are killed each year in such fashion in the country, as per private estimates.
According to IRIN, the news branch of the UN's Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, as many as 133 women were killed in the Iraqi city of Basra alone in 2006 -- of them 47 were honour killings and 79 for violation of "Islamic teachings".
Honour killings are not restricted to the Middle East or South Asia only. Developed countries such as the US, Britain, Canada, Germany, Sweden and other parts of Europe have also witnessed such crimes.
It is thought that up to 12 honour killings happen every year in the UK which usually occur within South Asian and Middle Eastern families. In December 2009, London Metropolitan Police reported that there had been a huge rise in such crimes and they have recorded 211 such incidents in the year.
Last year, the father and brother of a teenage girl, Aqsa Parvez, were sentenced to life in Canada for killing her in 2007. Parvez's crime was that she wanted to wear western clothes and get a part-time job like her Canadian peers. There have been 13 such cases in the country since 2002.
This highlights the fact that even in the West, young women, and sometimes men, are not safe from such bloody reprisals for defying the strict family code.
In India, honour killing is most prevalent in states such as Punjab, Haryana, western areas of Uttar Pradesh and in some parts of Bihar. In many instances, khap panchayats or caste councils order the killings for marrying against their wishes.
But the back-to-back cases in the national capital and elsewhere in the country in the past one month have shaken the conscience of modern India.
According to a new analysis by NGO Shakti Vahini, such sordid incidents have been reported from all over the country and in 90 per cent of the cases, the perpetrators of the crime were from the girl's family.
The study, commissioned by National Commission for Women (NCW), also found that 72 per cent of the 326 cases documented over the past one year involved couples that entered into inter-caste marriages.
Meanwhile, the government has announced setting up of a Group of Ministers (GoM) that will consider amendments to the law to deal with the issue. An amendment bill, expected to be tabled in Parliament in upcoming monsoon session, proposes to include a clause under Section 300 of the Indian Penal Code to deal exclusively with honour killings.
'Honour' killing: It's a global phenomenon - India - The Times of India
Rajneesh Madhok
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NEW DELHI: Even as the government is contemplating bringing in a new law to deal with the spurt in honour killings, reports by human rights organisations show that cold-blooded murders in the name of saving family pride had been prevalent in many parts of the world.
Honour killings have been rampant in orthodox and socially backward groups in many countries including India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Turkey, Jordan and the Palestinian Territories, they say.
While statistics are hard to come by due to non-reporting of such crimes, United Nations Population Fund approximates that as many as 5,000 women are murdered in this manner each year around the world.
But this is undoubtedly a low estimate, as reports from many countries are filtered and not brought to public notice.
According to Amnesty International, honour killings are the most widespread in Pakistan. A recent report by the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) states that 647 women were killed in the name of "honour" in 2009 -- up by 13 per cent from 2008 when 574 such killings were reported.
"An honour killing is carried out because the honour of men in the family is perceived to have been injured," I A Rehman, secretary-general of HRCP, was quoted as saying.
"This is basically a consequence of the low status of women in society," Rehman said.
Such crimes are committed for a wide range of "offences" -- marital infidelity, pre-marital sex, flirting, or even failing to serve a meal on time that can be perceived as impugning the family honour.
In one such case, a husband murdered his wife based on a dream that she had betrayed him, according to the Amnesty International. In Turkey, a young woman's throat was slit in the town square because a love ballad had been dedicated to her over the radio.
A June 2008 report by Turkey's Human Rights Directorate says that in Istanbul alone, there is one honour killing every week and over 1,000 were killed during the last five years.
In the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, it is believed that three-four women are killed every month in the name of saving honour. The Palestinian Authority follows the Jordanian law, which gives men reduced punishment for killing wives or female relatives if they have brought dishonour to the family.
Similarly, Article 548 of Syria's Penal Code states that if a person catches his wife or sister "committing adultery (called flagrante delicto) or illegitimate sexual acts with another and if he kills or injures one or both of them", he should benefit from a reduced penalty which should not be less than two years in prison.
In Morocco, Article 418 of Penal Code grants "extenuating circumstances" to a husband who murders or injures his wife for "flagrante delicto". About 200 women are killed each year in such fashion in the country, as per private estimates.
According to IRIN, the news branch of the UN's Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, as many as 133 women were killed in the Iraqi city of Basra alone in 2006 -- of them 47 were honour killings and 79 for violation of "Islamic teachings".
Honour killings are not restricted to the Middle East or South Asia only. Developed countries such as the US, Britain, Canada, Germany, Sweden and other parts of Europe have also witnessed such crimes.
It is thought that up to 12 honour killings happen every year in the UK which usually occur within South Asian and Middle Eastern families. In December 2009, London Metropolitan Police reported that there had been a huge rise in such crimes and they have recorded 211 such incidents in the year.
Last year, the father and brother of a teenage girl, Aqsa Parvez, were sentenced to life in Canada for killing her in 2007. Parvez's crime was that she wanted to wear western clothes and get a part-time job like her Canadian peers. There have been 13 such cases in the country since 2002.
This highlights the fact that even in the West, young women, and sometimes men, are not safe from such bloody reprisals for defying the strict family code.
In India, honour killing is most prevalent in states such as Punjab, Haryana, western areas of Uttar Pradesh and in some parts of Bihar. In many instances, khap panchayats or caste councils order the killings for marrying against their wishes.
But the back-to-back cases in the national capital and elsewhere in the country in the past one month have shaken the conscience of modern India.
According to a new analysis by NGO Shakti Vahini, such sordid incidents have been reported from all over the country and in 90 per cent of the cases, the perpetrators of the crime were from the girl's family.
The study, commissioned by National Commission for Women (NCW), also found that 72 per cent of the 326 cases documented over the past one year involved couples that entered into inter-caste marriages.
Meanwhile, the government has announced setting up of a Group of Ministers (GoM) that will consider amendments to the law to deal with the issue. An amendment bill, expected to be tabled in Parliament in upcoming monsoon session, proposes to include a clause under Section 300 of the Indian Penal Code to deal exclusively with honour killings.
'Honour' killing: It's a global phenomenon - India - The Times of India
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