Re: Nanak is the Guru, Nanak is the Lord Himself.
Dear Yograj,
I congratulate your on zeal and ardent beliefs and I do not mean this in a sacarstics manner as God is my witness. You may be rigth on some issues and worng in others. Regardless, never let your zeal and enthusiasm blind you or force you to advocate a certain position or belief.
It is a narrow path for those whose seek the path to enlightenment. We should all beware, lest we fall off the path and into the path of illusion and doubt - the progeny of duality.
Secondly the thoughts expressed by me are just that, my thoughts and interpretations of the Holy Scriptures of the SGGS JI. They are not my teaching. I am no one to teach or preach. I myslef am a seeker of the TRUTH just as you are. My mind is open to seek advice, clarifications and even positions which are in opposition to mind. Without discourse there is no discovery and enlightenment. However it should be constructive not just argumentative and/or confrontational.
The Sun in our Sky is but one. It's light seems to be one but hold up a piece of Crystal (The Sat Guru) to it and it splits into its component of colours. Concentrate this light again and it wil again merge into one light. In Unity, there is still diversity. God is the Light, The Sat Guru the Crystal, The spectrum of colours if God's Creation of Different kinds including religions. Within each colour of the spectrum, that whch exists, looks upon itself as a particular colour. It views it neighbour as different from it as it has a different colour. Fools are we all, all the colours merge into the One and become One. Such is our true destiny, Such is our True Path Home.
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
To your earlier post I will endeavour to reply but your questions require a lengthy reply which I cannot do justice to at the moment.
Please also note that SGGS JI is an abbreviation for Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. It is the same title with which we reverently address our Holy Sat Gurus (Eg. Shri Guru Nank Dev Ji or Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji). The Holy scripture has been vested with the Guruship by the 10th Master and showed be showed no lesser reverence in being addressed.
Commenting on the Vaak below, please note
ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਆਪੇ ਆਪਿ ਹੈ ਦੂਜਾ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥
sabh kishh aapae aap hai dhoojaa avar n koe ||
He Himself is everything; there is no other at all.
I do not know the context in which this verse has been taken and usually I refrain from commenting unless I have the full picture. However I will endeavour to make some brief comments.
From God came all things. In all things has God infused his light. All that is done is by His will and His Command. There is none that exists outside of his Will. The Lord God is the Doer of all things. God has manifested Himself in a number of ways; through His Word, Through the Sat Guru and through His Creation. He also manifests Himself through the congragation of the Holy who are the keepers of His Word and who are given the Word by the Sat Guru.
In Essence God is all by Himslef and He is the Doer of All Things. There is no other. It is God, in communion with the Sat Guru, that inspires the Sat Guru speak of God and of His Word. It is by Divine Will that the Existance came into being.
God is the Supreme Light and the Sat Guru is the embodiment of this Light. However the Sat Guru is a created being and God self created. In the Beginning before the ages began, the Lord was by Himslef in deep contemplation. There was nothing in existance, not even air and all was darkness.
I do not see how this Vaak leads to the conclusion that the Sat Guru is God.
The Guru of Nanak is the One God. Nanak is the vessle of humility and of the highest purity in whom the Lord poured His Ambrosial Name and vested this vessel with His Light.
God is Unborn and Self Existent.
The Sat Guru is the Essence of God for he is totally imbued with God's presences and Spirit. The Sat Guru ahs all Spiritual and Temporal Power adn can Command all of the Heavens and the Nether Worlds. Be the Sat Guru in the form of Ram, Krishna, Buddha, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, Nanak and all his forms past, present and future, he is still a created being, made of flesh and born of woman. The repository of Divine Light, The Knower of God.
Dear Yograj,
I congratulate your on zeal and ardent beliefs and I do not mean this in a sacarstics manner as God is my witness. You may be rigth on some issues and worng in others. Regardless, never let your zeal and enthusiasm blind you or force you to advocate a certain position or belief.
It is a narrow path for those whose seek the path to enlightenment. We should all beware, lest we fall off the path and into the path of illusion and doubt - the progeny of duality.
Secondly the thoughts expressed by me are just that, my thoughts and interpretations of the Holy Scriptures of the SGGS JI. They are not my teaching. I am no one to teach or preach. I myslef am a seeker of the TRUTH just as you are. My mind is open to seek advice, clarifications and even positions which are in opposition to mind. Without discourse there is no discovery and enlightenment. However it should be constructive not just argumentative and/or confrontational.
The Sun in our Sky is but one. It's light seems to be one but hold up a piece of Crystal (The Sat Guru) to it and it splits into its component of colours. Concentrate this light again and it wil again merge into one light. In Unity, there is still diversity. God is the Light, The Sat Guru the Crystal, The spectrum of colours if God's Creation of Different kinds including religions. Within each colour of the spectrum, that whch exists, looks upon itself as a particular colour. It views it neighbour as different from it as it has a different colour. Fools are we all, all the colours merge into the One and become One. Such is our true destiny, Such is our True Path Home.
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
To your earlier post I will endeavour to reply but your questions require a lengthy reply which I cannot do justice to at the moment.
Please also note that SGGS JI is an abbreviation for Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. It is the same title with which we reverently address our Holy Sat Gurus (Eg. Shri Guru Nank Dev Ji or Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji). The Holy scripture has been vested with the Guruship by the 10th Master and showed be showed no lesser reverence in being addressed.
Commenting on the Vaak below, please note
ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਆਪੇ ਆਪਿ ਹੈ ਦੂਜਾ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥
sabh kishh aapae aap hai dhoojaa avar n koe ||
He Himself is everything; there is no other at all.
I do not know the context in which this verse has been taken and usually I refrain from commenting unless I have the full picture. However I will endeavour to make some brief comments.
From God came all things. In all things has God infused his light. All that is done is by His will and His Command. There is none that exists outside of his Will. The Lord God is the Doer of all things. God has manifested Himself in a number of ways; through His Word, Through the Sat Guru and through His Creation. He also manifests Himself through the congragation of the Holy who are the keepers of His Word and who are given the Word by the Sat Guru.
In Essence God is all by Himslef and He is the Doer of All Things. There is no other. It is God, in communion with the Sat Guru, that inspires the Sat Guru speak of God and of His Word. It is by Divine Will that the Existance came into being.
God is the Supreme Light and the Sat Guru is the embodiment of this Light. However the Sat Guru is a created being and God self created. In the Beginning before the ages began, the Lord was by Himslef in deep contemplation. There was nothing in existance, not even air and all was darkness.
I do not see how this Vaak leads to the conclusion that the Sat Guru is God.
The Guru of Nanak is the One God. Nanak is the vessle of humility and of the highest purity in whom the Lord poured His Ambrosial Name and vested this vessel with His Light.
God is Unborn and Self Existent.
The Sat Guru is the Essence of God for he is totally imbued with God's presences and Spirit. The Sat Guru ahs all Spiritual and Temporal Power adn can Command all of the Heavens and the Nether Worlds. Be the Sat Guru in the form of Ram, Krishna, Buddha, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, Nanak and all his forms past, present and future, he is still a created being, made of flesh and born of woman. The repository of Divine Light, The Knower of God.
