Simran Experiences - "As The Inner Vision Is Awakened, One Comes To Know One's Own Home, Deep Within

[chazSingh]

Satnaam Chaz Ji

One of the first things i started realising on this path is that the Ego should be held to one side as much as possible. That we should never think that we are the doer, or that our efforts are providing the experiences.

Beautiful, when we hold this stance, the evolution can occur naturally and it becomes easy to recognise His line of communication....

EVERYTHING is him, we are just the spectator. Even the thoughts or the motivation to sit and meditate or do Seva is his Grace, his Will that is doing everything.

I for one, don;t care where i am spiritually, or what realms i traverse through. As of yet i haven't felt scared or un-comfortable with what i've experienced and that I hope is the love for Guru Ji that always protects me. Always keep hold of the sounds and vibration of Waheguru and Satnaam, they'll keep you moving in the right path and safely.

Great, living in Truth is living in Hukam- We learn what He wants us to learn as He wants us to learn it- All on His terms

Going further, we apply the gyan continuously that it's All Him- accepting the hukam fearlessly and lovingly- not reacting in maya(the theives).

My biggest blockage was to accept and believe that God is within me, and that i don't need to go anywhere but to understand that all can be experiences within. Once i got over that blockage i started to understand that God is one with me at all times and it is He that is meditating with me This will open you up to all that is Him.

Yep, He's with us, All around us- where is He not? He never left us..


Everything is is Gurbani, both the technology and info of the spiritual path.

Living Gurbani is what the bhagat does- The Gyan is the Guru and the Guru is the Gyan.

God bless you all on your journey.

God bless you too

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Thank you Ji for all the useful information. all your posts have been very infomative for any idividuals that guru ji is inspiring to move a long this path.

God bless the sangat

 

[chazSingh]

When the bhagat reaches a certain point of realisation they understand that the outer world is the same as the inner world- We Are the Entire Creation- the journey is within- and we go deeper when we embrace this fact(Nirboah and Nirvair)- for we are able to let the universe be without resentment- and there is Silence

Yup, i've even heard the outer world is a projection from the inner self. That we create our reality from within. Something very useful maybe for the ones taking this inner journey.


The inner sound is the same as the outer. Naam is Truth- it is a Frequency of a Balanced Gyan that applies across a universal spectrum(All pervading) that lives to discover while remaining detached from the nasha of the discovery(highs and lows- to remain in the balance i.e Truth i.e the Frequency of God).

Anhad naad is symbolic reflection of this Truth/silence- In the Truth even sound doesn't exist. Eventually the Naad quietens down to Nothing.

Yup, Naam is everywhere and in everything...
The anhad naad, something i haven't experienced as yet. Something
i don't look for, whatver occurs or does not occur...the peace felt duing Simran is amazing enough. All else i leave to Guru Ji.


It can be different for different people

I have no doubt about that. What you also mentioned about not getting attached to any imagery is of utmost importance.
I concentrate as much as possible to the vibration of the mantra when/if any imagery occurs...i feel this helps to remain detached from it.

And ofcourse, nothing can happen without the Love and Devotion. Most important ingredient.


God Bless you

Thank you Ji. God bless you and everyone.

 

[Luckysingh]

Thanks for the post LuckyJi, exactly why i wanted to set up this thread, full of useful insight, how simran has helped you, difficulties etc etc.
Actual experience and practical feedback from you.

I have explained how in my case simran and meditation has helped me achieve something that I had no idea I would achieve.
What I'm trying to say here is when people start and take on a new task, they expect some results or set a target to achieve.
I, on the other hand just needed to meditate in order to break away from my fast and busy lifestyle. But I had not set any goals as to become more spiritual or having more love for the Lord. It was definitely a more physical approach to try and relax my body and mind. I had tried many other forms of relaxation, but found that I would still always be timing myself and my mind would be on other things.

As I got into it slowly, I found that I was getting better at doing it and it was definitely invigorating my mind as well. This somehow seemed to take all the concerns and worries that may have been on my mind.
Not long after I started feeling this immense love for creation and creator. I realised that I'm just a small dot in the universe, yet we all feel that we have all the worries in the world!!
All these feelings that we have come from our mind. In a sense they are all self inflicted. I soon felt, that any one of us can easily rise above all this if we try and so eradicate these feelings and fears.

In fact, this is how I feel know. The simran has helped shape me into a better individual. I am much more calm that it seems unbelievable at times. Sometimes I actually feel there might be something wrong with me since I don't feel any of the worries or fears that others around me will be experiencing. So, I can in fact say that the simran has changed my charachter and bought out the best in me.

I do wish that I had felt like this much long ago, as then I wouldn't have made the mistakes that I did.
The other thing that has resulted from simran and meditation is my inreased spirituality.
This again is not something that I went out looking for, but it has automatically got much stronger.

I also feel in better harmony with all of the creation around me. It is such that I feel very appreciative and thankful for the simple natural things around me.

As to actual experiences during simran, these can be very varied. They can range from seeing colours and shapes to hearing the word vibrating within every bone of your body. It seems that all your senses seem to wake up giving sensations of sound, feelings of hot and cold, pleasant tastes and smells.

As to problems, I don't encounter any at all. Maybe because I don't expect or hope for anything.
I do feel much more anand when I read and recite the Japji sahib such that I find the shabads from the paath carry on in my conscience throughout the rest of the day and even whilst I am sleeping.
It does strenghten my spirituality a great deal and makes me much more closer to the God within and around me.


Waheguru

 

[Ambarsaria]

Luckysingh ji thanks for your post. I am much impressed with your descriptions and experiences.

I do feel much more anand when I read and recite the Japji sahib such that I find the shabads from the paath carry on in my consciousness throughout the rest of the day and even whilst I am sleeping.
It does strenghten my spirituality a great deal and makes me much more closer to the God within and around me.Waheguru

Perhaps unfortunately, I am not into Simran practice at the moment. What I do want to share is something different.

When I try to attempt translations of Gurbani in SGGS, I get a feeling that I am seated in front of Guru ji or say Baba Farid ji. So the words are not just something that you read on a screen and apply grammar or other rules to. It actually at some time was so verbally announced to the lucky one's by Guru ji's and others. In this state of mind the words unfold quite differently versus how one would just read things. I believe if one can link to associations through Gurbani in SGGS, it may enhance and enrich our experiences with SGGS.

Any way some thoughts or craziness.

Sat Sri Akal.

 

[findingmyway]

I once saw a very wise Gyani doing katha and one thing he said in particular has always stuck with me. We would never treat our grandfather the way we treat Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. If we were to sit our grandfather in a corner and tell him, "Please sit in the corner and be quiet. We won't listen to what you are telling us but we will dress you in nice clothes, pay our respects and continually repeat your name. That is enough respect but we won't listen to you at all." Grandfather ji would understandably be extremely angry and upset at such treatment but this is exactly how we treat Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. There should be more effort and time spent on understanding and implementation imho. Otherwise all the simran in the world is useless. When I see the same people who do simran for hours on end being rude to other people or fighting in Gurdwaras it greatly saddens me as the message of Gurbani has been lost to simran.

 

[chazSingh]

I once saw a very wise Gyani doing katha and one thing he said in particular has always stuck with me. We would never treat our grandfather the way we treat Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. If we were to sit our grandfather in a corner and tell him, "Please sit in the corner and be quiet. We won't listen to what you are telling us but we will dress you in nice clothes, pay our respects and continually repeat your name. That is enough respect but we won't listen to you at all." Grandfather ji would understandably be extremely angry and upset at such treatment but this is exactly how we treat Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. There should be more effort and time spent on understanding and implementation imho. Otherwise all the simran in the world is useless. When I see the same people who do simran for hours on end being rude to other people or fighting in Gurdwaras it greatly saddens me as the message of Gurbani has been lost to simran.

Satnaam FindMyWay Ji,

I imagine there are many that agree, myself also that people go to the gurdwara, carry our akhand paats and other events in a ritualistic manner i.e. dont even sit, listen, comprehend the gurbani, so yes they are showing un-believable amounts of disrespect by doing so,

But, i think you have contradicted yourself a little about Simran. If someone is doing Simran with Complete love and Devotion in order to 'REALISE THEIR TRUE SELVES' i.e. god particles - satnaam then they are following gurbani to the core. TRUE simran goes hand in hand with Seva in your daily life and also sharing with others.

repeating a mantra like a parrot, whilst the mind wanders around, without any feeling of love for your Guru is 100% useless. But that is not the Simran that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji has taught me or is trying to teach you.

Simran Meditation is mentioned in sooo many pages of Gurbani.
you have quoted "There should be more effort and time spent on understanding and implementation"
So then please listen to your Guru Ji when he tells you to do Simran. Try one method, see how it works, try another, experiement but lets make the effort, and then come back and let the sangat know how you are getting on.

"When I see the same people who do simran for hours on end being rude to other people or fighting in Gurdwaras"
This is their journey to control their 5 thieves. Simran will not get rid of your 5 thieves overnight, it takes time, effort, discipline, love and complete devotion and surrender to Guru Ji.
Your inner Guru, knows your character completely, so when you do Simran, your internal guru knows how much anger, lust, greed, attachement and ego you have....and in your daily life he will confront you with your evil character i.e. the fights in the streets, the family problems etc etc. to see how you re-act, and for youself to understand the bad aspects of your character.

I can only talk to you about my own experience with Simran.

For me, When i do Simran, i come face to face with my 5 thieves. In deep contemplation of God (without any interuption of the outside world, i can hear my crazy thoughts, i can see the images my mind throws in front of me of Women, Sex, Money, Greed, Ego. The Simran works with your internal Amrit to start to clean your subconscious mind which contains the 5 thieves.

You then go back into society for the rest of your day, go to work, spend time with Friends and family and then you see how much of a difference Simran has made. God throws tests at you all the time to see if you can forgive someone, to see if you can love a family member who slanders you behind you back, if you can love your enemy etc etc.

I still make mistakes at the hands of the 5 thieves, but bit by bit, day by day as the Simran works its wonders, you start noticing the changes.

And the more the 5 thieves are put to one side, the more the light of god starts to shine through....that i can vouch for...he gives you his proof for the efforts you are making.

God bless you and the Sangat on your journey back to Waheguru.

 

[chazSingh]

I once saw a very wise Gyani doing katha and one thing he said in particular has always stuck with me. We would never treat our grandfather the way we treat Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. If we were to sit our grandfather in a corner and tell him, "Please sit in the corner and be quiet. We won't listen to what you are telling us but we will dress you in nice clothes, pay our respects and continually repeat your name. That is enough respect but we won't listen to you at all." Grandfather ji would understandably be extremely angry and upset at such treatment but this is exactly how we treat Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. There should be more effort and time spent on understanding and implementation imho. Otherwise all the simran in the world is useless. When I see the same people who do simran for hours on end being rude to other people or fighting in Gurdwaras it greatly saddens me as the message of Gurbani has been lost to simran.

Satnaam Ji,

a handful of examples out of hundreds concerning Simran, Remberance, Meditation in gurbani

In the beginning we were with god, he put us into his creation, and in-case we get sooo attached to his creation, he provided a method by which we can 'Remember' Him again, and find our way back home...to our TRUE SELVES. God bless you. Please enjoy the beautiful gurbabi below:

jis simarath sukh hoe ghanaa dhukh dharadh n moolae hoe ||
Remembering Him in meditation, a profound peace is obtained. Pain and suffering will not touch you at all.

jaa naao chaethai thaa gath paaeae jaa sathigur mael milaaeae ||6||
But when they remember the Name, then they attain the state of salvation, when the True Guru unites them in Union. ||6||

simarath saas giraas pooran bisuaas kio manahu bisaareeai jeeo ||
I remember Him in meditation with every breath and morsel of food, with perfect faith. How could I forget Him from my mind?

ooch athhaah baea(n)th suaamee simar simar ho jeevaa(n) jeeo ||1||
Highest of the High, Unfathomable, Infinite Lord and Master: continually remembering You in deep meditation, I live. ||1||

gharree moorath simarath pal va(n)n(j)ehi jeevan safal thithhaaee jeeo ||1||
If you remember the Lord in meditation for a moment, even for an instant, then your life will become fruitful and prosperous. ||1||

simaro dhin rain saas giraasaa ||3||
remember Him in meditation, day and night, with every breath and every morsel of food. ||3||

simar simar simar gunathaas ||3||
Remember, remember, remember Him in meditation; He is the treasure of excellence. ||3||

har simarath naanak sukh paaeiaa ||4||8||77||
Remembering the Lord in meditation, Nanak has found peace. ||4||8||77||

jis simarath dhukh ddaeraa dtehai ||
Remembering Him in meditation, the home of sorrow is abolished.

jis simarath jam kishhoo n kehai ||
Remembering Him in meditation, the Messenger of Death shall not touch you.

simarath raam naahee jam maar ||
Remembering the Lord in meditation, you shall not be punished by the Messenger of Death.

kahu naanak gur ma(n)thra chithaar ||
Says Nanak, remember the GurMantra;

 

[Harry Haller]

Chazji

I have thought about you quite a lot over the bank holiday weekend, and at times, I have found myself just wishing I could switch off the white noise in my head, just to find some calm, some peace, (backlog of 15 pc's/laptops to get out), however, and after giving he matter a huge amount of thought, my feeling is that this simran you speak of, are mind clearing practices, all our minds are different, in mine, I see wolves and clowns, in yours you see the five thieves, my own personal opinion is that one needs to really understand what is going on in your head rather than block it out, take for example gambling, drinking and women, all used to have a huge hold on me, that now I find boring, I do not need to do simran to block them out, I have understood what they represent, the fun I could have in indulging in them, and the peace I have if I do not, of course I still have a few things that I need to work on, but the things I have ticked, they cannot touch me again, ever. My method utilises learning about yourself, really getting into your head and mentally debating, using the fine words of wisdom from the SGGS, there is no need to read off huge parts of Bani, when sometimes just thinking about one line will suffice. Not chanting, or repeating, but understanding, just one line can be enough.

So, question, and an honest answer required, do you use simran to envelop yourself in grace so that you can fight off the thieves, or do you use simran as a learning tool in the hope that one day you can understand the five thieves and understand why they have nothing to entice you with?

your brother harry

 

[chazSingh]

Chazji

I have thought about you quite a lot over the bank holiday weekend, and at times, I have found myself just wishing I could switch off the white noise in my head, just to find some calm, some peace, (backlog of 15 pc's/laptops to get out), however, and after giving he matter a huge amount of thought, my feeling is that this simran you speak of, are mind clearing practices, all our minds are different, in mine, I see wolves and clowns, in yours you see the five thieves, my own personal opinion is that one needs to really understand what is going on in your head rather than block it out, take for example gambling, drinking and women, all used to have a huge hold on me, that now I find boring, I do not need to do simran to block them out, I have understood what they represent, the fun I could have in indulging in them, and the peace I have if I do not, of course I still have a few things that I need to work on, but the things I have ticked, they cannot touch me again, ever. My method utilises learning about yourself, really getting into your head and mentally debating, using the fine words of wisdom from the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, there is no need to read off huge parts of Bani, when sometimes just thinking about one line will suffice. Not chanting, or repeating, but understanding, just one line can be enough.

So, question, and an honest answer required, do you use simran to envelop yourself in grace so that you can fight off the thieves, or do you use simran as a learning tool in the hope that one day you can understand the five thieves and understand why they have nothing to entice you with?

your brother harry

Great post harry Ji,

The very fact you are doing all of the above is Grace. The contemplation, the wanting to be a better person, the changes you've made...all is grace

For your very interesting question i will try and explain the best i can from my own experience.

Gurbani keeps telling us to try and 'Remember' god, to 'Wake up'.
What should we remember? am i somehow asleep? that i need to Awaken?
What on earth is God talking about?

har kaa naam n chaethai praanee bikal bhaeiaa sa(n)g maaeiaa ||
You do not remember the Name of the Lord, and you become confused by Maya.

dhoojai bhaae suthae kabehi n jaagehi maaeiaa moh piaar ||
Asleep in the love of duality, they never wake up; they are in love with, and attached to Maya

Is he trying to take me back to a place where i once was?....from where i have been away so long, that i dont remember anymore? Do i need to pysically move, is Guru Ji referring to my Consciousness?

Quick Story:
A Man, living an eventful life, has a car crash, severe head injuries.
Wakes up and cannot remember anything anymore, who he was, who his family was. Doctors try to really 'wake' him up and make him 'REMEMBER' using various 'techniques'.

The technique discussed in Gurbani is Simran/Meditation.

a(n)tharagath theerathh mal naao ||
cleanse yourself with the Name, at the sacred shrine deep within.

What is this Shrine 'DEEP WITHIN'?

You see, God implanted in us a method by which we can remember him if our attachment to his creation becomes too strong.
If you are attached to something, you need to withdraw from it, but the 5 thieves have us by our hair

ghar mehi a(n)mrith thasakar laeee ||
In the house of the self is the Ambrosial Nectar, which is being stolen by the thieves.

As in the above quote, the amrith is within us, the 5 thieves prevent us from experiencing it.

So i use Simran to come face to face with the 5 thieves deep within me. I mean to the core of where they actually exists. in my subconscious mind.
I can 'see' what the thieves are up to, which of them 'influence' me more by the thoughts and images that apear in my head.

Rather than skimming the surface of the 5 thieves in my daily life i.e. not perving at a woman, being jelous of someone else, stopping myself from getting upset if someone slanders me or my family...instead i am going to the core, the root cause and trying to clear it permanently.

And what i've found is when you start to hold down the 5 thieves more and more, your experiences of god increases, you can almost plot it on a graph. Ego is the worst one. move that to one side and god literally shines through, hence the title of this thread "inner vision".

The Simran Medition is for an hour or two per day, after which you have the rest of the day to do your outer Simran, i.e. charity, seva, and testing how much your character is changing with the internal Simran you're doing. You have your inner experience of God, and also your outer experience with God (creation).

nij ghar mehal paavahu sukh sehajae bahur n hoeigo faeraa ||3||
Within the home of your own inner being, you shall obtain the Mansion of the Lord's Presence with intuitive ease. You shall not be consigned again to the wheel of reincarnation. ||3||

saath samu(n)dh bharae niramal neer ||
the seven seas within are filled with the Immaculate Water.

These Seven Seas refer to the Seven Chakras (hinduism) and Seven Seals (christianity). They exist within us, and as you really truly start to defeat your 5 thieves from deep within your mind, the Amrit starts to flow through your body through all of the Seven energy centres (seven Seas).

When i do my simran and experience as per Guru Ji's grace, i can come back to gurbani and relate to such quotes as above.

Hope this explains.

God bless you.

 

[findingmyway]

ChazSingh ji,

Firstly, a quick comment relating to rules of this website
1) Always quote ang numbers so others can look at the shabad for their own understanding too.
2) Always include the original Gurmukhi for the same reason. Many of us find the English alliteration very difficult to read and follow!
3) Never use only 1 or 2 lines as this leads to misleading translations. You MUST quote complete shabads so there is context to the lines of relevance.

The above posts will remain but future posts MUST adhere to these rules in order to promote a positive and constructive learning environment. Thanks for your understanding. Please go back and add Ang numbers.


Secondly, in response to your comments directed at me. My understanding of simran is much broader than yours. It is more akin what has been written by Tejwant Singh here http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/1046-simran-how-to-do-it.html#post6428

Thank you for sharing your personal experiences. I am extremely happy for you that you find simran helpful. I do not. Different people work differently and my understanding of Gurbani's references to simran are implementing Gurbani in your life, however that may be. For some it is the constant repetition of Waheguru. For me personally, that does not work at all. For me its always analysing myself, my words and actions, its doing voluntary work and it is working through my sehaj paath very slowly trying to understand Gurbani rather that reciting it only (no matter how much love goes into the recitation, itis not enough for me).

 

[Luckysingh]

Chazji

So, question, and an honest answer required, do you use simran to envelop yourself in grace so that you can fight off the thieves, or do you use simran as a learning tool in the hope that one day you can understand the five thieves and understand why they have nothing to entice you with?

your brother harry

I think the most appropriate answer is Both of them. But it is more of a tool to help you.
Personally, I find that I would be implementing the word and bani throughout the day but sometimes I sense a lack of connection.
This feeling of loss of connection with the Lord is when I am or have been to occupied mentally. I may well be contemplating bani and shabads but there just seems a distance that has been created by me, myself.
However, once I do the simran and meditation then this missing void gets filled.
Again, I start to feel the immense love for creator and creation.

So, in my case it really helps me to connect and it feels amazing when done. Sometimes it feels that I may have lost track a little and gone off route- the simran and meditation helps bring me back on the track. In this sense I would regard it as a tool.

I'm not sure if others are affected in the same manner, but for me, I am thankful that the lord has given me this tool and ability to connect to the maximum.


Waheguru

 

[chazSingh]

Personally, I find that I would be implementing the word and bani throughout the day but sometimes I sense a lack of connection.
This feeling of loss of connection with the Lord is when I am or have been to occupied mentally. I may well be contemplating bani and shabads but there just seems a distance that has been created by me, myself.
However, once I do the simran and meditation then this missing void gets filled.

Waheguru

Great Post Lucky Ji,

on the comments above, Guru Amar Das so beautiful wrote:

ijnI iek min nwmu iDAwieAw gurmqI vIcwir ]
jinee eik man naam dhhiaaeiaa guramathee veechaar ||
Those who meditate single-mindedly on the Naam, and contemplate the Teachings of the Guru

iqn ky muK sd aujly iqqu scY drbwir ]
thin kae mukh sadh oujalae thith sachai dharabaar ||
their faces are forever radiant in the Court of the True Lord.
Siree Raag 28

The words meditate with 'Eik Man' or 'Single Mindedly' as you say is sometimes so very difficult to do when we're really busy with our daily lives. Millions of worldly thoughts passing through our minds.

Finding some precious moments to be able to sit down in a quiet place, close your eyes and try to feel gods prescence within you and try to contemplate him 'Single Mindedly' is a blessing from Guru Ji.

God bless you and the sangat.

 

[Harry Haller]

Chazji,

It is clear neither of us will deviate from our chosen methods, for instance, I often play heavy metal whilst contemplating Creator, and sometimes, I get a wow moment, when I understand and realise what the message is, and how clever or noble it is.

As the idea is to integrate the message in real life, it seems apt to have real life around me while I contemplate, anyhoo, might I suggest one of us posts a shabad, and our own interpretation, and then we can compare the two, or sangat can also offer their own interpretations, not to change minds, but just to see the myriad of colours that is the rainbow of thought that can come out of Bani, I think it would be interesting,

 

[chazSingh]

Satnaam Harry Ji,

One example of beautiful gurbani: 1402

ieik pVih suxih gwvih prBwiqih krih ies˜wnu ]
eik parrehi sunehi gaavehi parabhaathihi karehi eisaan ||
Some read and listen and sing of Him, taking their cleansing bath in the early hours of the morning before the dawn.
Waking up at amrit vela to contemplate god. The mind Reads, the soul listens. Cleansing bath is the ineternal cleansing of the mind of the 5 thieves (some people take this literal and think its an actual bath)

ies˜wnu krih prBwiq suD min gur pUjw ibiD sihq krM ]
eisaan karehi parabhaath sudhh man gur poojaa bidhh sehith kara(n) ||
After their cleansing bath in the hours before the dawn, they worship the Guru with their minds pure and clear.
After the amrit vela cleansing bath (mind cleaning), we worship the guru, serve his creation i.e the people around us, seva, charity, looking after the environment etc etc. But with our minds more pure and clear due to the cleansing bath (min cleaning)

kMcnu qnu hoie pris pwrs kau joiq srUpI D´wnu DrM ]
ka(n)chan than hoe paras paaras ko joth saroopee dhhyaan dhhara(n) ||
Touching the Philosopher's Stone, their bodies are transformed into gold. They focus their meditation on the Embodiment of Divine Light.
What is this philosphers stone? how do we meditate on the divine light. By Gurus grace i feel i know and have experienced this. this is not for me to tell you, its for you to put the faith in and experience yourself.

jgjIvnu jgMnwQu jl Ql mih rihAw pUir bhu ibiD brnµ ]
jagajeevan jaga(n)naathh jal thhal mehi rehiaa poor bahu bidhh barana(n) ||
The Master of the Universe, the very Life of the World pervades the sea and the land, manifesting Himself in myriads of ways.
explains itself, but still many don't actually deep down believe in this.

siqguru guru syiv AlK giq jw kI sRI rwmdwsu qwrx qrxM ]4]
sathigur gur saev alakh gath jaa kee sree raamadhaas thaaran tharana(n) ||4||
So serve the Guru, the True Guru; His ways and means are inscrutable. The Great Guru Raam Daas is the Boat to carry us across. ||4||
Explains itself
ijnhu bwq insçl DR¨A jwnI qyeI jIv kwl qy bcw ]
jinahu baath nischal dhhrooa jaanee thaeee jeev kaal thae bachaa ||
Those who realize the Eternal, Unchanging Word of God, like Dhroo, are immune to death.
In the beginning was the word, the word was with god, the word is god. Anhad Shabad, Naaam, call it what you like - exists in all, in me and you and eveything. By gurus grace we'll become aware and realise this.
iqn@ qirE smudRü rudRü iKn iek mih jlhr ibMb jugiq jgu rcw ]
thinh thariou samudhra rudhra khin eik mehi jalehar bi(n)b jugath jag rachaa ||
They cross over the terrifying world-ocean in an instant; the Lord created the world like a bubble of water.
Explains itself
kuMflnI surJI sqsMgiq prmwnµd gurU muiK mcw ]
ku(n)ddalanee surajhee sathasa(n)gath paramaana(n)dh guroo mukh machaa ||
The Kundalini rises in the Sat Sangat, the True Congregation; through the Word of the Guru, they enjoy the Lord of Supreme Bliss.
Dormant Kundalini energy rises, lighting up the Sat Sarovar (seven chakras) energy centres. through the word of the guru and we enjoy the lord. All happens within us. and all are capable of this if we trust in SGGS Ji and our internal Guru.

 

[chazSingh]

Satnaam Harry Ji,

Another example. The meaning i write are just from my own experience and current understanding. As mentioned by other members, gurbani is endless, infinate. As our own consciousness evolves and uplifts, the meaning also evolves and becomes deeper.

Gurbani taken from: Raag Maajh 110

syvw suriq sbid icqu lwey ]
saevaa surath sabadh chith laaeae ||
Center your awareness on seva-selfless service-and focus your consciousness on the Word of the Shabad.
Surat shabad - to focus all of our attention and consciosness on the shabad
Me personally i find this hard to do when running around all day, work, family, lifes stress. I find i can dedicate my consciosness to the shabad during meditation/Simran.

haumY mwir sdw suKu pwieAw mwieAw mohu cukwvixAw ]1]
houmai maar sadhaa sukh paaeiaa maaeiaa mohu chukaavaniaa ||1||
Subduing your ego, you shall find a lasting peace, and your emotional attachment to Maya will be dispelled. ||1||
focusing your attention and consciousness on the shabad, you come face to face with the 5 thieves and your ego. Slowly with guru Ji grace they start to subside.

hau vwrI jIau vwrI siqgur kY bilhwrixAw ]
ho vaaree jeeo vaaree sathigur kai balihaaraniaa ||
I am a sacrifice, my soul is a sacrifice, I am totally devoted to the True Guru.

gurmqI prgwsu hoAw jI Anidnu hir gux gwvixAw ]1] rhwau ]
guramathee paragaas hoaa jee anadhin har gun gaavaniaa ||1|| rehaao ||
Through the Guru's Teachings, the Divine Light has dawned; I sing the Glorious Praises of the Lord, night and day. ||1||Pause||
again, this divine light is not for me to tell you about...its for you to experience with full trust and devotion to your guru.

qnu mnu Kojy qw nwau pwey ]
than man khojae thaa naao paaeae ||
Search your body and mind, and find the Name.
How can one search their own body and mind when running round in their busy lives all day, then sleeping at night. When do we really get time to understand our own being, who we are, what we are, and what is within the mind and body (and i dont mean the organs). i mean, analyze our consciosuness, what it is, what is the mind, the 5 thieves. come face to face with them. For me, doing Surat Shabad simran (consciousnes focussed on shabad) is what works for me. Others may find something else.

Dwvqu rwKY Twik rhwey ]
dhhaavath raakhai t(h)aak rehaaeae ||
Restrain your wandering mind, and keep it in check.
Can be done at a conscious level while awake in daily life.
Can be done at the root subconscious level during Simran

gur kI bwxI Anidnu gwvY shjy Bgiq krwvixAw ]2]
gur kee baanee anadhin gaavai sehajae bhagath karaavaniaa ||2||
Night and day, sing the Songs of the Guru's Bani; worship the Lord with intuitive devotion. ||2||
Self explanatory
iesu kwieAw AMdir vsqu AsMKw ]
eis kaaeiaa a(n)dhar vasath asa(n)khaa ||
Within this body are countless objects.
What are these objects?

gurmuiK swcu imlY qw vyKw ]
guramukh saach milai thaa vaekhaa ||
The Gurmukh attains Truth, and comes to see them.
In the end only the truth matters, not the millions of opinions based on non-experience. It's only now that these verses of gurbani have started to mean something to me. In the future i may return to this verse and it means even more. But only by Guru Ji's grace.

nau drvwjy dsvY mukqw Anhd sbdu vjwvixAw ]3]
no dharavaajae dhasavai mukathaa anehadh sabadh vajaavaniaa ||3||
Beyond the nine gates, the Tenth Gate is found, and liberation is obtained. The Unstruck Melody of the Shabad vibrates. ||3||
Body contains 9 openings, there is also a tenth (tenth gate) which when opened connects you to the whole cosmos and to the Shabad (anhad shabad) which permeates everywhere and withing everything. With Guru Ji's grace i pray we are all lifted to this moment.

 

[arshi]

6.6.12: Chaz Singh wrote:
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ਮੋਤੀ ਤ ਮੰਦਰ ਊਸਰਹਿ ਰਤਨੀ ਤ ਹੋਹਿ ਜੜਾਉ ॥ ਕਸਤੂਰਿ ਕੁੰਗੂ ਅਗਰਿ ਚੰਦਨਿ ਲੀਪਿ ਆਵੈ ਚਾਉ ॥
motee ta mandar oosreh ratnee ta hohi jarhaa-o. kastoor kungoo agar chandan leep aavai chaa-o.


Palaces built of rubies, studded with gems, plastered with a mixture of saffron, and sprayed with perfume and fragrance of sandalwood, create yearning ambitions within the heart and mind (man's soul is bewitched by burning desires).


ਮਤੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਭੂਲਾ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨਾਉ॥੧॥
mat daykh bhoolaa veesrai tayraa chit na aavai naa-o. ||1||

(Shall I succumb (give in) to these worldly desires?)

O Lord, bless my soul, lest these worldly distractions lead me astray and I forget Thy Name.


ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਜੀਉ ਜਲਿ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਉ॥ ਮੈ ਆਪਣਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਪੂਛਿ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਅਵਰੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਥਾਉ॥੧॥ਰਹਾਉ॥
har bin jee-o jal bal jaa-o.mai aapnaa gur poochh daykhi-aa avar naahee thaa-o. ||1|| rahaa-o.


Without Thee O Lord, the threshold of my inner consciousness being) is scorched by the burning desires for worldly status and riches. I have consulted my Guru who has convinced me that there is no eternal sanctuary other than that in the House of God. Pause.


ਧਰਤੀ ਤ ਹੀਰੇ ਲਾਲ ਜੜਤੀ ਪਲਘਿ ਲਾਲ ਜੜਾਉ ॥ ਮੋਹਣੀ ਮੁਖਿ ਮਣੀ ਸੋਹੈ ਕਰੇ ਰੰਗਿ ਪਸਾਉ ॥ ਮਤੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਭੂਲਾ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨਾਉ ॥੨॥ dhartee ta heeray laal jarh-tee palagh laal jarhaa-o. mohnee mukh manee sohai karay rang pasaa-o.


If there be a floor set in a mosaic of precious diamonds and rubies, supporting a couch encased in gems;


And were then a vivacious maiden, bedecked in diamonds and emeralds, with loving gestures, to invite me to her couch; may I not, O Lord, on beholding this wonder astray and forget Thy Name.


ਸਿਧੁ ਹੋਵਾ ਸਿਧਿ ਲਾਈ ਰਿਧਿ ਆਖਾ ਆਉ ॥ ਗੁਪਤੁ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ ਬੈਸਾ ਲੋਕੁ ਰਾਖੈ ਭਾਉ ॥ ਮਤੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਭੂਲਾ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨਾਉ ॥੩॥
siDh hovaa siDh laa-ee riDh aakhaa aa-o. gupat pargat ho-ay baisaa lok raakhai bhaa-o. mat daykh bhoolaa veesrai tayraa chit na aavai naa-o. ||3||


Were I to become a man of mystic powers, well-versed in the arts of occult and mysticism, able to perform miracles and summon wealth and glory at will;


And were I to become visible and invisible at will, thereby earning myself the reverence and esteem of all people;

May I not on attaining such status forget Thee and remember not Thy Name.


ਸੁਲਤਾਨੁ ਹੋਵਾ ਮੇਲਿ ਲਸਕਰ ਤਖਤਿ ਰਾਖਾ ਪਾਉ ॥ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਹਾਸਲੁ ਕਰੀ ਬੈਠਾ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਸਭ ਵਾਉ ॥ ਮਤੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਭੂਲਾ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨਾਉ ॥੪॥੧॥sultaan hovaa mayl laskar takhat raakhaa paa-o. hukam haasal karee baithaa naankaa sabh vaa-o. mat daykh bhoolaa veesrai tayraa chit na aavai naa-o. ||4||1||


Were I to install myself on the throne of an emperor, possessing a huge army, endowed with worldly riches;


And were I able to exercise total control over my people, all this will not help achieve Eternal Bliss, for O’ Nanak, such worldly possessions blow away with the mere gust of wind.


I apologise for any errors in this old translation of mine (done in 1992 and quickly reviewed today) but the point is that life is full of temptations at all stages of our existence. We do not know what is round the corner.
Staying connected to our Guru is the only way not to succumb and fall prey to these worldly illusions. We all try to remain attached in our own ways but we ensure we are progressing in the right direction. This applies to me as much as to anyone else.


Again, I am genuinely humbled by the dedication and humility displayed by you, Lucky ji, Harry ji and findingmyway ji, all of you younger than my eldest son.


Best wishes.

Rajinder Singh ‘Arshi’

 

[chazSingh]

6.6.12: Chaz Singh wrote:
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ਮੋਤੀ ਤ ਮੰਦਰ ਊਸਰਹਿ ਰਤਨੀ ਤ ਹੋਹਿ ਜੜਾਉ ॥ ਕਸਤੂਰਿ ਕੁੰਗੂ ਅਗਰਿ ਚੰਦਨਿ ਲੀਪਿ ਆਵੈ ਚਾਉ ॥motee ta mandar oosreh ratnee ta hohi jarhaa-o. kastoor kungoo agar chandan leep aavai chaa-o.


Palaces built of rubies, studded with gems, plastered with a mixture of saffron, and sprayed with perfume and fragrance of sandalwood, create yearning ambitions within the heart and mind (man's soul is bewitched by burning desires).


ਮਤੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਭੂਲਾ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨਾਉ॥੧॥
mat daykh bhoolaa veesrai tayraa chit na aavai naa-o. ||1||

(Shall I succumb (give in) to these worldly desires?)

O Lord, bless my soul, lest these worldly distractions lead me astray and I forget Thy Name.


ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਜੀਉ ਜਲਿ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਉ॥ ਮੈ ਆਪਣਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਪੂਛਿ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਅਵਰੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਥਾਉ॥੧॥ਰਹਾਉ॥
har bin jee-o jal bal jaa-o.mai aapnaa gur poochh daykhi-aa avar naahee thaa-o. ||1|| rahaa-o.


Without Thee O Lord, the threshold of my inner consciousness being) is scorched by the burning desires for worldly status and riches. I have consulted my Guru who has convinced me that there is no eternal sanctuary other than that in the House of God. Pause.


ਧਰਤੀ ਤ ਹੀਰੇ ਲਾਲ ਜੜਤੀ ਪਲਘਿ ਲਾਲ ਜੜਾਉ ॥ ਮੋਹਣੀ ਮੁਖਿ ਮਣੀ ਸੋਹੈ ਕਰੇ ਰੰਗਿ ਪਸਾਉ ॥ ਮਤੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਭੂਲਾ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨਾਉ ॥੨॥ dhartee ta heeray laal jarh-tee palagh laal jarhaa-o. mohnee mukh manee sohai karay rang pasaa-o.


If there be a floor set in a mosaic of precious diamonds and rubies, supporting a couch encased in gems;


And were then a vivacious maiden, bedecked in diamonds and emeralds, with loving gestures, to invite me to her couch; may I not, O Lord, on beholding this wonder astray and forget Thy Name.


ਸਿਧੁ ਹੋਵਾ ਸਿਧਿ ਲਾਈ ਰਿਧਿ ਆਖਾ ਆਉ ॥ ਗੁਪਤੁ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ ਬੈਸਾ ਲੋਕੁ ਰਾਖੈ ਭਾਉ ॥ ਮਤੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਭੂਲਾ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨਾਉ ॥੩॥
siDh hovaa siDh laa-ee riDh aakhaa aa-o. gupat pargat ho-ay baisaa lok raakhai bhaa-o. mat daykh bhoolaa veesrai tayraa chit na aavai naa-o. ||3||


Were I to become a man of mystic powers, well-versed in the arts of occult and mysticism, able to perform miracles and summon wealth and glory at will;


And were I to become visible and invisible at will, thereby earning myself the reverence and esteem of all people;

May I not on attaining such status forget Thee and remember not Thy Name.


ਸੁਲਤਾਨੁ ਹੋਵਾ ਮੇਲਿ ਲਸਕਰ ਤਖਤਿ ਰਾਖਾ ਪਾਉ ॥ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਹਾਸਲੁ ਕਰੀ ਬੈਠਾ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਸਭ ਵਾਉ ॥ ਮਤੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਭੂਲਾ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨਾਉ ॥੪॥੧॥sultaan hovaa mayl laskar takhat raakhaa paa-o. hukam haasal karee baithaa naankaa sabh vaa-o. mat daykh bhoolaa veesrai tayraa chit na aavai naa-o. ||4||1||


Were I to install myself on the throne of an emperor, possessing a huge army, endowed with worldly riches;


And were I able to exercise total control over my people, all this will not help achieve Eternal Bliss, for O’ Nanak, such worldly possessions blow away with the mere gust of wind.


I apologise for any errors in this old translation of mine (done in 1992 and quickly reviewed today) but the point is that life is full of temptations at all stages of our existence. We do not know what is round the corner.
Staying connected to our Guru is the only way not to succumb and fall prey to these worldly illusions. We all try to remain attached in our own ways but we ensure we are progressing in the right direction. This applies to me as much as to anyone else.


Again, I am genuinely humbled by the dedication and humility displayed by you, Lucky ji, Harry ji and findingmyway ji, all of you younger than my eldest son.


Best wishes.

Rajinder Singh ‘Arshi’

Satnaam Rajinder Singh Ji,

Such beautiful and precious shabad and a great post for this thread.

I am a filthy sinner and Guru Ji knows what i have done in my life. All we can do is fall at Guru Ji's feet and hope that he forgives us.

And when He makes himself known to you, the joy just flows out and you want to share with everyone, you want everyone to feel that joy.

And as you said, life keeps coming up with the tests, and we need to keep continuing with the Simran and Seva so that we can pass through the difficult times with our heads held high.

God Bless you Ji and the sangat.

 

[Luckysingh]

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I apologise for any errors in this old translation of mine (done in 1992 and quickly reviewed today) but the point is that life is full of temptations at all stages of our existence. We do not know what is round the corner.
Staying connected to our Guru is the only way not to succumb and fall prey to these worldly illusions. We all try to remain attached in our own ways but we ensure we are progressing in the right direction. This applies to me as much as to anyone else.


Again, I am genuinely humbled by the dedication and humility displayed by you, Lucky ji, Harry ji and findingmyway ji, all of you younger than my eldest son.


Best wishes.

Rajinder Singh ‘Arshi’

You are correct that we fall prey too easily to these worldly illusions. Sometimes even doing seva for some gives them a false ego enhancer, making themselves feel better than others around them.
Seeing these examples around me, I sometimes try very hard to not put a value in terms of time or money on any seva I do.
I fear that it can give this false sense of pride and ego.
Thus, something that looks like a very good and physical deed being carried out by me, may actually be keeping me on my toes and aware of this ego, this me, me, me...I've done this,this,this... is something that I fear too much even when I am exposing good around me.

These are the tests you mention that keep occuring. The more we progress the more different forms and disguises we encounter.

Me personally, I find that simran helps keep my feet on the ground a little better. Maybe it does enhance my awareness so that I am able to view the mirror that is always infront of me reflecting me, or seeing how the lord may be viewing me.

This approach helps to conquer my weakness but it doesn't make me more closer to perfection. I find the closer I get to try and better myself, the more unexpected opportunities arise that move the goals further, OR maybe I keep becoming more and more aware and conscious of what to and what not to avoid.
For eg.. I may be on my way to do a driving test. On the way, I meet a tramp and then I decide to help and buy them breakfast and give money for them to purchase food later.
Now, on my way to the test it may seem so easy for me to get false ego and pride in what I've done, so that if I pass I would feel that I deserved it.!!-
This feeling can come on quite easily and in the past I wasn't always aware of it. But this is the kind that I'm talking about, that we must conquer and eradicate. I should instead be thinking that I should have helped this poor person on a daily basis in the past, and that I should be planning to help them tomorrow and the future. So, just by me helping and doing this seva is not the end of it, it actually is the beginning of an encounter that will leave me feeling one way or the other.

But it is all so easy for us to think, i've done my bit, now it's someone elses turn!!! --These thoughts and feelings we must try to eradicate.
Once embarking on such a charitble cause should be the beginning of a new journey not just -I have spare time, spare cash, so I can help.
It's this part after and commitment to carry on regardless that I find most challenging.


Waheguru

 

[Harry Haller]

For eg.. I may be on my way to do a driving test. On the way, I meet a tramp and then I decide to help and buy them breakfast and give money for them to purchase food later.
Now, on my way to the test it may seem so easy for me to get false ego and pride in what I've done, so that if I pass I would feel that I deserved it.!!-

I am sorry Luckyji, I do not find this sewa at all.In my view sewa requires discretion, intelligence and foresight. I know it is tempting to help all and sundry, to just throw money at things, but you can easily cause more problems than solving. This brings me right to the crux of the problem with simran as described by yourself and Chazji. Your meditating and absorbing only the surface philosophies, therefore, the primary intention will always be the most obvious. Where is the thinking? Your simran has only taught you to give up your time and your money, as that is in line with 'doing good', but there is more to doing good than blindly giving up time and money.

Firstly why is the tramp a tramp? because no one actually sits him down and asks him why. The more money and time you give this tramp, the longer you are making him suffer this lifestyle, better to put him in touch with the various agencies that can advise benefits/housing/job advice etc, but how far do you go, do you bring the tramp home? do you rub his feet? In my view you do all you can to enable him to help himself, and this is the brilliant concept that balances everything in Sikhism so that we do not turn into ascetics or mountain top sitters, we have to remember that this is not a test, it is also our life, and we must live and find the balance between sewa and life.

Also, there are plenty of people in hospitals, prisons, wheelchairs, through no fault of their own, so who takes priority, tramps or an eight year old girl dying of cancer? This again is down to the intelligence and brains that we have been given, so that we may use our logic and discretion to be a good Sikh to all in need.

Everything with the simran brigade seems to be surface only, repeating of mantras, giving away time and money with little thought to the consequences, using chanting to keep away evil thoughts, where is the thinking?

When we do sewa we must be aware that it is a huge responsibility, and one that must be administrated with a huge care as to the consequences, are we making the situation worse? better? or just trying to keep a deity happy? or, can we see Creator in the situation that has come across us, and in that light, use our brains, logic, and be guided by Bani as to what the true and right course of action is.

 

[chazSingh]

I am sorry Luckyji,
No need to be sorry Harry Ji, I'm sure Lucky Ji will continue to have 'actual' experience of the truth even if the whole Forum dissagreed with him.

I do not find this sewa at all.In my view sewa requires discretion, intelligence and foresight. I know it is tempting to help all and sundry, to just throw money at things, but you can easily cause more problems than solving.
Seva can be, helping the neighbour fix a leaking tap, helping your mother wash the dishes, all is Seva when done with complete purity of heart.


This brings me right to the crux of the problem with simran as described by yourself and Chazji. Your meditating and absorbing only the surface philosophies, therefore, the primary intention will always be the most obvious. Where is the thinking? Your simran has only taught you to give up your time and your money, as that is in line with 'doing good', but there is more to doing good than blindly giving up time and money.

Harry ji, In a previous post you wrote
"1pm An extremely attractive woman comes in selling a laptop, I note she is wearing a low cut top, I spend the entire conversation looking directly at her eyes and behaving like a professional, of course there is a part of me like all men that wishes to have a quick peek, but again, a big red light is flashing in my head with 'wrong' written all over it"

Now, I commend you from stopping yourself from looking down her top, realising it was wrong BUT the THOUGHT still came into your head. Ask youself, why did this thought come into your mind in the first place? where did it originate from? you dont want to be "like all men" and "wish to peek", you are on this site i'm hoping because you want to attain the truth and become your true self? am i right?

Having a thought of Desire (as you did), but then deciding not to act it out, is cleansing on the 'surface' - like removing a fly from a cup of milk, when the real dirt exists 'hidden' at the bottom of the cup.

Not having the desire filled THOUGHT in the FIRST PLACE is TRUE cleansing within yourself. And SIMRAN is the method prescribed in gurbani for doing this.


Firstly why is the tramp a tramp? because no one actually sits him down and asks him why. The more money and time you give this tramp, the longer you are making him suffer this lifestyle, better to put him in touch with the various agencies that can advise benefits/housing/job advice etc, but how far do you go, do you bring the tramp home? do you rub his feet? In my view you do all you can to enable him to help himself

I do not get your point,
Lucky Ji has already stated "I should instead be thinking that I should have helped this poor person on a daily basis in the past, and that I should be planning to help them tomorrow and the future. So, just by me helping and doing this seva is not the end of it"
He hasnt stated that he will forever keep giving the tramp money. He mentioned continuing to 'Help' and not an instance of giving money to be the 'End of it'.
But regardless of this, if someone is hungry in the street the first thing to do is buy them food or give them money to buy some. After that the continuing seva is to help them get back on their feet

Also, there are plenty of people in hospitals, prisons, wheelchairs, through no fault of their own, so who takes priority, tramps or an eight year old girl dying of cancer? This again is down to the intelligence and brains that we have been given, so that we may use our logic and discretion to be a good Sikh to all in need.
Priority is not the question, its the purity of heart in which the Seva is carried out. Give what you can, help in any way you can with a pure heart. otherwise the Seva is pointless and just feeding one or more of the 5 thieves within you.

Everything with the simran brigade seems to be surface only, repeating of mantras, giving away time and money with little thought to the consequences, using chanting to keep away evil thoughts, where is the thinking?
The Simran Brigade also includes Gurbani
The DEPTH'NESS of Simran cannot be described to someone who has never tried it
Using Simran to keep away evil thought is actually stopping the thoughts from coming up in the first place Ji and is your step to being the pure soul described in Gurbani.
Otherwise we are just what gurbani describes below:

baahar ka(n)chan baarehaa bheethar bharee bha(n)gaar ||145||
On the outside, he may look like pure gold, but on the inside, he is stuffed with dust. ||145||


It's your thoughts on the inside which gurbani is describing as the dust here.
On the outside you seem professional and give the client a good deal, on the inside you have the thoughts of looking down the clients top.
please contemplate this jewel of gurbani.


When we do sewa we must be aware that it is a huge responsibility, and one that must be administrated with a huge care as to the consequences, are we making the situation worse? better? or just trying to keep a deity happy? or, can we see Creator in the situation that has come across us, and in that light, use our brains, logic, and be guided by Bani as to what the true and right course of action is.

The soul doesn't need LOGIC, its acts on truth, and complete purity (its made of the same thing as God). Until our mind is in complete control of your 5 thieves all logic by the brain will be in one way or the other influenced by the 5 thieves.

niramal karanee saachee reeth ||
their actions are pure, and their lifestyle is true.

Please contemplate what it is to be PURE.

guru gobind singh ji writes that "aap apanee budh hah jetee ..." in chaupai meaning that everyone preaching their own wisdom

But there is only the TRUTH, which existed before time, exists now, and will always exists, and its contained in SGGS Ji.

please contemplate on the gurbani below from SGGS Ji 184:

AMimRq nwmu irdY hir jwpY ]1]
a(n)mrith naam ridhai har jaapai ||1||
They meditate on the Ambrosial Name of the Lord within their hearts. ||1||

pwrbRhmu prmysuru iDAweIAY ]
paarabreham paramaesur dhhiaaeeai ||
Meditate on the Supreme Lord God, the Transcendent Lord.

gur pUry qy ieh miq pweIAY ]1] rhwau ]
gur poorae thae eih math paaeeai ||1|| rehaao ||
From the Perfect Guru, this understanding is obtained. ||1||Pause||

ismir mnw pUry gur mMqw ]2]
simar manaa poorae gur ma(n)thaa ||2||
Meditate on Him, O my mind, through the Teachings of the Perfect Guru. ||2||


Our minds will always complain, find reasons to think otherwise, make excuses not to follow this wisdom, but it is not our minds that we should follow.

God bless all