Sathanuman Singh
SPNer
- Mar 22, 2006
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Re: Why do I believe in Jesus? An ex-sikhs journey in faith...
This topic of Jesus being the (only way, the son of God, dying for man's sins) is so shallow.
Lets look at the claim that he is the ONLY way.
The "Way" in Sanskrit, the oldest written language on earth is Dharma
When a saint of any path says, "I am.." he is telling the Truth. TO know one is the I am is the absolute truth.
One should evolve to that awareness in which one is the "I am"
To know the Way, the Dharma is to be the Dharma.
Son of God. We are 'sons and daughters' of the Creator. Even Christ said we are all sons of God.
He knew it and those around him hadn't realized it and they still don't.
Dying for man's sins. Jesus didn't die for all mens' sins or we would all be without sin. We have an ego, God Created it and its for us to humble our egos before the will of God.
Christ as a spiritual teacher could take on the karma of his students (disciples) or others who he chose by his divne will.
Guru Harkrishan (the 8th) Sikh Guru took on the karma of Delhi and died at 8, washing the karmas (sins) of the those who had contracted the dis-ease.
As a Sikh, I don't worship the man. I worship and pray to the One God that I live my Guru's teachings.
My Guru is the Siri Guru Granth Sahib. It has no personality.
That is the uniqueness of Siri Guru Gobind Singh. He didn't ask his Sikhs (Disciples) to worship him or call him God. He chastised those who would and told them they would go directly to HELL!
OUr Guru is the Word of God, the Shabd.
There is no comparison to this in world history. We are not the evolution of Islam, Christiantity, Hinduism Buddhism, or Judaism
Even B'hai says it is the evolution of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed. Bahaulau is the 9th incarnation of this soul. The Bab is the 8th.
What Christ taught, what Bahaulau taught, what Buddha lived and taught, what Krishna taught is the same as Guru Nanak right on through Kabir, Sheik Farid, Guru Gobind Singh. There is ONE Creator, One Truth. Each of us is a spark of light from the Original Light. WE are Hu (Light) man (mind).
By the way Buddha didn't even mention God, why does he need to. He live a path of humility and service.
We are Human Beings (Divine Beings)
We have not realized it yet. By God's Grace we eventually will.
Maybe this is Hell and these great evolved souls come down to this place to show us the way out of hell. We are under some illusion that this is earth and that hell and heaven are something beyond this place.
To be reborn, to reincarnate and forget one is that light, that one is Divine, is Hell. Just ask Kabir. His sacred hymns are in the Siri Guru Granth, not the Koran, the Vedas, not the Torah, not the New Testament of the Bible.
Guru Nanak tells us of the terrible world ocean and how to cross it.
To keep the Name of God in our hearts, on our breath and in our minds.
This path is for the disciplined, not the believer. We practice a holy way of life. That is Sikhi.
To commit to God's Will, that is Khalsa!
You cannot convert to this path. You cannot be born into it. You are already it in your soul and you know it through the Divine Guru.
Jesus means-savior from the Hebrew Yashua
Nanak means- Humility/without ego from the Sanskrit
Guru means, one who teaches us the Gur
One who guides the disciple from the darkness of spiritual ignorance to the Light of Truth.
"He who has ears, let him hear my words".
"You are the Light of the world, let you light so shine that all may see"
"Be ye therefor perfect, even as you Father in Heaven is Perfect"
All this was taught to his closest disciples by Jesus the Christ.
Until you can realize God is all, and see God in all, you are not a Christian, nor a follower of any Jesus.
You are just fumbling around trying to find your center.
Lets pray to God we all do. This world needs more saints.
Through Guru Nanak and Guru Gobind Singh, may Thy Name forever increase and may all prosper by Thy Grace.
S.S. Sathanuman Singh Khalsa
Mukhia Jathedar
Guru Nanak Niwas
a Khalsa since 1974
a practicing Sikh since 1971
This topic of Jesus being the (only way, the son of God, dying for man's sins) is so shallow.
Lets look at the claim that he is the ONLY way.
The "Way" in Sanskrit, the oldest written language on earth is Dharma
When a saint of any path says, "I am.." he is telling the Truth. TO know one is the I am is the absolute truth.
One should evolve to that awareness in which one is the "I am"
To know the Way, the Dharma is to be the Dharma.
Son of God. We are 'sons and daughters' of the Creator. Even Christ said we are all sons of God.
He knew it and those around him hadn't realized it and they still don't.
Dying for man's sins. Jesus didn't die for all mens' sins or we would all be without sin. We have an ego, God Created it and its for us to humble our egos before the will of God.
Christ as a spiritual teacher could take on the karma of his students (disciples) or others who he chose by his divne will.
Guru Harkrishan (the 8th) Sikh Guru took on the karma of Delhi and died at 8, washing the karmas (sins) of the those who had contracted the dis-ease.
As a Sikh, I don't worship the man. I worship and pray to the One God that I live my Guru's teachings.
My Guru is the Siri Guru Granth Sahib. It has no personality.
That is the uniqueness of Siri Guru Gobind Singh. He didn't ask his Sikhs (Disciples) to worship him or call him God. He chastised those who would and told them they would go directly to HELL!
OUr Guru is the Word of God, the Shabd.
There is no comparison to this in world history. We are not the evolution of Islam, Christiantity, Hinduism Buddhism, or Judaism
Even B'hai says it is the evolution of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed. Bahaulau is the 9th incarnation of this soul. The Bab is the 8th.
What Christ taught, what Bahaulau taught, what Buddha lived and taught, what Krishna taught is the same as Guru Nanak right on through Kabir, Sheik Farid, Guru Gobind Singh. There is ONE Creator, One Truth. Each of us is a spark of light from the Original Light. WE are Hu (Light) man (mind).
By the way Buddha didn't even mention God, why does he need to. He live a path of humility and service.
We are Human Beings (Divine Beings)
We have not realized it yet. By God's Grace we eventually will.
Maybe this is Hell and these great evolved souls come down to this place to show us the way out of hell. We are under some illusion that this is earth and that hell and heaven are something beyond this place.
To be reborn, to reincarnate and forget one is that light, that one is Divine, is Hell. Just ask Kabir. His sacred hymns are in the Siri Guru Granth, not the Koran, the Vedas, not the Torah, not the New Testament of the Bible.
Guru Nanak tells us of the terrible world ocean and how to cross it.
To keep the Name of God in our hearts, on our breath and in our minds.
This path is for the disciplined, not the believer. We practice a holy way of life. That is Sikhi.
To commit to God's Will, that is Khalsa!
You cannot convert to this path. You cannot be born into it. You are already it in your soul and you know it through the Divine Guru.
Jesus means-savior from the Hebrew Yashua
Nanak means- Humility/without ego from the Sanskrit
Guru means, one who teaches us the Gur
One who guides the disciple from the darkness of spiritual ignorance to the Light of Truth.
"He who has ears, let him hear my words".
"You are the Light of the world, let you light so shine that all may see"
"Be ye therefor perfect, even as you Father in Heaven is Perfect"
All this was taught to his closest disciples by Jesus the Christ.
Until you can realize God is all, and see God in all, you are not a Christian, nor a follower of any Jesus.
You are just fumbling around trying to find your center.
Lets pray to God we all do. This world needs more saints.
Through Guru Nanak and Guru Gobind Singh, may Thy Name forever increase and may all prosper by Thy Grace.
S.S. Sathanuman Singh Khalsa
Mukhia Jathedar
Guru Nanak Niwas
a Khalsa since 1974
a practicing Sikh since 1971