SORRY>>>>... I was emotional.
Its the excuse that all racists and bigots choose..."The poor kids" , just like those against miscegination. It applies to colour (dont mix with the blacks/mongrels etc), caste (as why the divisions in caste were rejected), race , politics (South Africa Apartheid) etc... IT ALWAYS is a shallow pathetic argument put forward by bigots THAT IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR ON THE KIDS !!! ..... HEARD THAT BEFORE in history !!!!
That is why I was angry as it is wrong. IF a person can practice their religion freely in a marriage and love their partner, I see no detriment to the child as long as the child is not forced into any. Kids arent stupid and learn very quickly what is good and bad..... I have seen that with my own family and many others. Moreover with these ridilculous assumptions no Sikh child should be born in the UK as it would only confuse the kid !!
Those pontificating such views have no idea and I believe we have seen these types of people throughout history. The reality is in the beauty of such children and the courage of their parents to defy convention and support their children.
Yet the so called ones who think they are pure worry about how love will hurt and make such children suffer. UTTER DISGRACE !!!! :motherlylove:
LionSinghji,
I also think we are talking at cross purposes here, you must remember this is a Sikh Philosophical forum, not a general social or marriage forum, so the question is really from a spiritual and religious point of view. My wife is also white, agnostic, and although I have no children of my own, I inherited a 6ft Englishman (also agnostic) as a stepson. Now when we met, I was also agnostic, so everything was peachy, and given your adherent, I can imagine you will advise your children as best you can, but allow them to find their own answers to the question as to spirituality, as indeed would I regarding my stepson, (although who I treat as my own son).
So when I look at a married couple where one is Sikh, and one is Hindu, and they have children, and neither is particularly religious, although both are active socially in religious meetings, then Great, no problem, many many couples that consist of both Sikh parents can do a great job miseducating thier kids in any case, given the appropriate environment, this situation, it really is neither here nor there what adherent, colour, race anyone is.
The problem arises when each parent feels the need to push their own religious background on the kids, and I am sure you would have as much as an issue with this as I would. I used to be a Hedonist, and I admire any responsible hedonist, they can be truer to heart and better of soul than many religious types.
My wife is now appreciating the wonders of Sikhi, the concepts, the philosophy, it keeps our bond and connection with each other together, if my wife was an active Hindu/Christian/Muslim, I think I would find that hard, because we would be poles apart in our basic thinking. I would believe that life ended at death, She would believe that life carried on in Heaven, I believe that Homosexuals are no different to anyone else, and should be able to be themselves with no fuss or bother, She may believe that they are destined for Hell,
Now I am not trying to say the Abrahamic way is better or worse, but it is fundamentally different to Sikh thinking, and I have to confess, if my wife was say, a born again Christian, not just values, but a commited Christian, I think I would find that quite hard from a bonding and communication point of view.
To have children in such an environment would also not be hugely easy, speaking from my own point of view.
Many thanks for putting your point forward, and I completely agree with you that as long as children are not forced to choose, there is no detriment to the children, it is certainly love that brings up children anyway, not religion. To be honest, I dont even think this about the children, it is more about the conflict in parenting, given two very different adherents,
You seem quite angry at our community, and I can understand why, ours is quite a hypocritical community, where race and caste and money all seem to matter more than they should, maybe you feel like I did 8 or 9 years ago, when I would be walking in London with a girlfriend and come across a Sikh family, and instantly feel, I was being judged, I would get glares from the old men, glares from the old women, curiosity from the younger ones, You could amost hear the chatter as you walked away, 'you don't want to end up like him...', well, allow me to suggest a way of making things a bit even, understand what they do not understand, learn what they are not capable of learning, be a Sikh Hedonist, and know that people that judge you so, are very very far way from the essence of Sikhi. Sikhism is all inclusive, even Hedonists
winkingmunda