I agree that evoking the name "Waheguru" brings peace and focuses your mind on the divine. One feels immense love and devotion when they say their Lord's name. It has the ability to uplift spirits and calm the troubled mind. Like a song stuck in your head, the mind continues saying "Waheguru" even when the lips have grown tired. Waheguru remains the focus throughout the day.
who said evoking the name and who said anything about using your lips ?
Did I not mention somewhere that the jap repetition is just the initial stage to settle and ''steady'' the mind. Does gurbani not say that you must steady your mind ? OR does it say do whatever tickles your fancy and you feel is right ?
That's all good, but the name itself doesn't lead to realization of Akaal. Realization comes from studying, reading, and discussing the attributes of the divine. One does not obtain a PhD in philosophy by merely repeating "Socrates".
Before sikhi, it was only the brahmin caste that had the privileges of learning religious scriptures and texts.
Only they had the right to be educated, since at that time education meant = well learned = righteous people who understand the texts because of caste birthrights.
So, you are telling me that sikhi is for the learned individual only.
What did bhagat dhana read or many of the other enlightened ones in bani ?
Isn't sikhi about just putting your heart and mind in focus to the Truth or does the hardworking low caste sewage cleaner have to live in the hope of rebirth to be able to read and write, so that eventually he may be gurmukh.
If someone cannot read or write or doesn't even have basic 'social' communicating skills, then they have no hope whatsoever of being gurmukh sikh ?
You say "Sat Naam" can be used instead of "Waheguru" to evoke the same feelings. What you are still describing is akin to taking a drug or a placebo. "Sat Naam" Simran will not bring forth Sat any more than Pizza Simran will bring forth pizza. Regardless of how much love and devotion you have when you say the word "pizza", you still have to call the pizzeria, so they can deliver it to your house.
Do you think that saying the word with all your love is naam simran ?
Saying 'waheguru' is the same as saying 'pizza'
so, a druggie saying 'crack' and sex addict saying 'pus-sy' is simran ?
Read my post in other thread about maya and your thoughts being maya and how to move out of them.
Guru ji advocates repeating the name "Har Har", but without gurbani to provide context, the word "Har Har" has no meaning. In fact, the meaning would change from one person to the next. This is why Guru ji has given 1430 pages worth of context.
I wonder how many people doing "Waheguru" Simran understand what Waheguru is, beyond the warm and fuzzy feeling they get inside when they hear this name. I believe the Gurus came to give us knowledge, not just an emotional experience.
what warm and fuzzy feeling ?
You clearly have No idea what the term ''unspoken word' or 'akath katha' is in gurbani.
HINT- you can read all the texts you want but you will never know unless you do the practical.
Indeed, "Waheguru" Simran takes your mind off of the five thieves, but it does not lead to an understanding of what the 5 thieves are and why they are bad. Without understanding, we become like those three monkeys: See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil. In other words, saturate your senses so the bad stuff can't get in. In this sense, it is a leash for a dog. What's even better is a dog that doesn't need a leash.
I'm not against Waheguru Simran. I'm against using it as a means to enlightenment. It is nothing more than a tool used to quiet the mind.No gyaan is attained from this endeavor.
Yes, you are against waheguru simran.
I couldn't care less and wouldn't respond if you said
''I don't understand it properly because I haven't practiced it properly enough''.. but you are like the other few on here continuously bashing and picking parts of sikhi that suit your own mayaic world.
Simran cannot teach you how to deal with 5 thieves is what you are saying above.
What part of you falls prey to the 5 thieves ?
Is it your eyes, arms, head, nose...or is it your MIND ?
Then how are you going to start
''mann jitey jagg jeet'' ?
How will you begin to conquer and strengthen this mind..?
Maybe you are going to tell me that you do that by instructing and disciplining your brain to do so !
OR that you don't need to do that as the education, reading, discussing will take care of that.
Who told you that No gyan is attained and where exactly in gurbani does it say that ?
You actually think that '
'knowledge'' is all about what you train your brain to do.
Then what is this mystery gyan obtained from akath katha (the unspoken speech) ?
If you spend more time ridiculing it than attempting it practically, then you shall never know.
You guys start a thread about 'Naam' but don't want to hear anything about naam simran or even it's explanation that is given in Anand sahib of
where and with
whom this naam resides in.